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Re: Office space for Perth Devs
by Jon Hayward
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Ok,
In east perth, in the middle of Royal St. Offices are (eyballing size) at about 20sqm and 30sqm and about four of these to offer at least, we have about 250 sqm worth of office space if we go for this. Each office can easily take two desks with heaps of space, three if you don't need that much, four for the larger. Rooms are networked and for a small fee net usage can be supplied. Location has some free parking, cat bus stop right outside, usual amenities, nearby 24 hour deli / subway and close to ecentral. Would also be running a managed meeting room for use of everyone there. Looking at about $150 a week dependent on size of office with $1500 upfront to cover bond. Lease wise we would prefer people to sign up for 12 months, but is open to negotiation. Please pass this around, if I can get all four offices in theory "rented" (and I would prefer to do this for the indies) then it's a shoe in. You're back in november? That's cool, the main thing we need to cover right now is the bond for the place. ST~ On Thu Jul 9 23:02 , Smoking Hat <smokinghatcomments@...> sent: >I want in. Out of the country till november though, lets work from >there.... > > > >On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Jon Hayward wrote: > >> Hey Guys, >> >> A little while ago there was some inquiries about putting together >> for cheap office >> space. Well the group I do work with has located some extremely >> good office space in >> a extremely good location for a extremely cheap price i.e lots of >> space v.cheap right >> next door to free public transport. >> >> This does however hinge on if we can bring enough people together, >> if anyone is >> interested please let me know ASAP >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > >) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Office space for Perth Devs
by Shanon Loughton-2
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Id like to consider it, though would only use it after hours at this stage. Can help with bond.
What other details do you need from us? ToWeR On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Jon Hayward <jhayward@...> wrote: And some days I hate hitting the reply button on webmail. Anyways those are the |
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Licensing fonts
by Andy H-3
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I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my
iPhone app I have to pay $3000. Does anyone know if Arial is actually license free or have we all been using it with out a license? Andy H. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Brendan Ragan
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Andy H wrote:
> I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my > iPhone app I have to pay $3000. > Uhmm... considering Apple licensed it for the iPhone I'd be quite surprised, but I suppose it's possible? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Kat Black-2
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Hmm, I thought that native apps only used Helvetica?
http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/iphone_fonts meow & ciao, kat black =^..^= http://VJzoo.com http://illumiQ.com for iPhone ~ quite nice visuals ~ http://TouchstoneTarot.com http://GoldenTarot.com http://78friends.com http://LittleWhiteBook.net for iPhone http://BallofQ.com for iPhone ~ tell me true ~ PO Box 3414, Broadway LPO, Crawley 6009, Western AUSTRALIA Mobile: +61 402 786 353 | Skype: katblack66 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/katblack Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/katblack Twitter: http://twitter.com/78friends 2009/7/11 Andy H <andyhawkins@...>: > I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my > iPhone app I have to pay $3000. > > Does anyone know if Arial is actually license free or have we all been using > it with out a license? > > Andy H. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Brendan Ragan
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Kat Black wrote:
> Hmm, I thought that native apps only used Helvetica? > > http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/iphone_fonts > The UI uses Helvetica by default (as does Mac OS X) but you can use the code here to select a custom font: http://ajnaware.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/list-of-fonts-available-on-the-iphone/ (the UIFont Class is in the iPhone SDK and has been since 2.0, so we are "allowed" to use it) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Joel Blackwell
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Can you replace what you have with a license free font?
-Joel Andy H wrote: > I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my > iPhone app I have to pay $3000. > > Does anyone know if Arial is actually license free or have we all been > using it with out a license? > > Andy H. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Kat Black-2
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Thanks again Brendan :)
2009/7/11 Brendan Ragan <lordmortis@...>: > Kat Black wrote: >> Hmm, I thought that native apps only used Helvetica? >> >> http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/iphone_fonts >> > The UI uses Helvetica by default (as does Mac OS X) but you can use the > code here to select a custom font: > > http://ajnaware.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/list-of-fonts-available-on-the-iphone/ > > (the UIFont Class is in the iPhone SDK and has been since 2.0, so we are > "allowed" to use it) > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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RE: Licensing fonts
by Paul Turbett-3
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I think the license fee applies to distribution of fonts. If a font is
already on the device, you can probably* assume that the license fee has been taken care of by the platform holder. If you distribute the font yourself, then you probably need to license it. L8r, Paul * I don't guarantee this information is correct :) -----Original Message----- From: Andy H [mailto:andyhawkins@...] Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 2:58 PM To: pigmi@... Subject: [PIGMI] Licensing fonts I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my iPhone app I have to pay $3000. Does anyone know if Arial is actually license free or have we all been using it with out a license? Andy H. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Andy H-3
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It seems the distribution of font in a game are under license - here's
their speil... I'm gonna draw my own - convert to vector, then make TT fonts and sell them - f*ckers! You’ll see this question: *Q: I want to use Larabie Fonts in my software application. What should I do?* A: If you want to distribute Larabie fonts with applications, whether web-based, or shipping as standalone products for PCs, Macs, game consoles or other devices, you need an extended use license. Please contact Ascender Corporation <http://www.ascendercorp.com/custom/ray-larabie/>. They take care of Larabie Fonts licensing, including OEM and customized versions. The license fee to distribute a single weight of a Larabie/Typodermic font in the TrueType format in unlimited units of a single game title on just the iPhone platform for the life of the game title is $3,000. If you only needed to distribute one or two bitmap sizes, the license fee would be $1,500. If you have more than two bitmaps sizes the license fee would be the same as the TrueType outline. This is for worldwide distribution rights and there are no unit reporting requirements with this license. The license fees include warranty and indemnification from Ascender Corporation. > I think the license fee applies to distribution of fonts. If a font is > already on the device, you can probably* assume that the license fee has > been taken care of by the platform holder. If you distribute the font > yourself, then you probably need to license it. > > L8r, Paul > > * I don't guarantee this information is correct :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy H [mailto:andyhawkins@...] > Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 2:58 PM > To: pigmi@... > Subject: [PIGMI] Licensing fonts > > I just found out from Ascender Corp that in order to use a font for my > iPhone app I have to pay $3000. > > Does anyone know if Arial is actually license free or have we all been > using it with out a license? > > Andy H. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Brendan Ragan
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Andy H wrote:
> It seems the distribution of font in a game are under license - here's > their speil... I'm gonna draw my own - convert to vector, then make TT > fonts and sell them - f*ckers! You can't use the System fonts for this at all? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Andy H-3
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I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for
example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the license fee afaik > Andy H wrote: > >> It seems the distribution of font in a game are under license - here's >> their speil... I'm gonna draw my own - convert to vector, then make TT >> fonts and sell them - f*ckers! >> > You can't use the System fonts for this at all? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Brendan Ragan
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Andy H wrote:
> I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for > example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the > fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the > license fee afaik That... doesn't make sense - are you talking if you use the font in an image which you put into your game? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Andy H-3
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Yes - if you open Photoshop, add a text element that uses "My Expensive
Font" and make a title screen, the put that screen in a game - you have to pay for the license. > Andy H wrote: > >> I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for >> example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the >> fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the >> license fee afaik >> > That... doesn't make sense - are you talking if you use the font in an > image which you put into your game? > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Chris McCormick
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That is not correct, at least not for many of the Larabie fonts. I use them all
the time in my web games and I've been told explicitly either by Ray Larabie himself, or someone working for him/wife/secretary, that that usage (fonts rendered to images) doesn't require a license or any kind of fee. I can dig up the email where I was told this if you want. I know it's true though because I usually send him a link to the game when I'm done and he always replies. As far as I know, a license fee is required on those fonts if you want to distribute the binary font file itself. Best, Chris. On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 05:17:10PM +0800, Andy H wrote: > Yes - if you open Photoshop, add a text element that uses "My Expensive > Font" and make a title screen, the put that screen in a game - you have > to pay for the license. >> Andy H wrote: >> >>> I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for >>> example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the >>> fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the >>> license fee afaik >>> >> That... doesn't make sense - are you talking if you use the font in an >> image which you put into your game? >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > http://mccormick.cx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Joel Blackwell
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That's correct. Fees are for when you distribute the binary font file,
and are effectively selling it along with your product. -Joel Chris McCormick wrote: > That is not correct, at least not for many of the Larabie fonts. I use them all > the time in my web games and I've been told explicitly either by Ray Larabie > himself, or someone working for him/wife/secretary, that that usage (fonts > rendered to images) doesn't require a license or any kind of fee. I can dig up > the email where I was told this if you want. I know it's true though because I > usually send him a link to the game when I'm done and he always replies. > > As far as I know, a license fee is required on those fonts if you want to > distribute the binary font file itself. > > Best, > > Chris. > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 05:17:10PM +0800, Andy H wrote: >> Yes - if you open Photoshop, add a text element that uses "My Expensive >> Font" and make a title screen, the put that screen in a game - you have >> to pay for the license. >>> Andy H wrote: >>> >>>> I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for >>>> example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the >>>> fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the >>>> license fee afaik >>>> >>> That... doesn't make sense - are you talking if you use the font in an >>> image which you put into your game? >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >> > ------------------- > http://mccormick.cx > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Andy H-3
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I've asked the Ascender Corp (who deal with Larabie fonts) to clarify
what they mean by "distributing fonts", but their license says this...
(and why would make a game that contains fonts you can then download
and use elsewhere????)
"The license fee to distribute a single weight of a Larabie/Typodermic font in the TrueType format in unlimited units of a single game title on just the iPhone platform for the life of the game title is $3,000. If you only needed to distribute one or two bitmap sizes, the license fee would be $1,500. If you have more than two bitmaps sizes the license fee would be the same as the TrueType outline. This is for worldwide distribution rights and there are no unit reporting requirements with this license. The license fees include warranty and indemnification from Ascender Corporation." That's correct. Fees are for when you distribute the binary font file, and are effectively selling it along with your product. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Brendan Ragan
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Andy H wrote:
> I've asked the Ascender Corp (who deal with Larabie fonts) to clarify > what they mean by "distributing fonts", but their license says this... > (and why would make a game that contains fonts you can then download > and use elsewhere????) > > /"The license fee to distribute a single weight of a > Larabie/Typodermic font in the TrueType format *in unlimited units of > a single game title on just the iPhone platform for the life of the > game title *is $3,000. If you only needed to distribute one or two > bitmap sizes, the license fee would be $1,500. If you have more than > two bitmaps sizes the license fee would be the same as the TrueType > outline. > / If you render all the glyphs to a texture which you include in the game, that *might* be distribution. That above certainly doesn't appear to cover the "making images with the fonts" example. If, on runtime you take the existing OS font and render it to a texture - is that distribution? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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Re: Licensing fonts
by Joel Blackwell
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How does that sit with Ray Larabie?
-Joel Andy H wrote: > I've asked the Ascender Corp (who deal with Larabie fonts) to clarify > what they mean by "distributing fonts", but their license says this... > (and why would make a game that contains fonts you can then download and > use elsewhere????) > > /"The license fee to distribute a single weight of a Larabie/Typodermic > font in the TrueType format *in unlimited units of a single game title > on just the iPhone platform for the life of the game title *is $3,000. > If you only needed to distribute one or two bitmap sizes, the license > fee would be $1,500. If you have more than two bitmaps sizes the license > fee would be the same as the TrueType outline. > > This is for worldwide distribution rights and there are no unit > reporting requirements with this license. The license fees include > warranty and indemnification from Ascender Corporation."/ >> That's correct. Fees are for when you distribute the binary font >> file, and are effectively selling it along with your product. >> >> -Joel >> >> >> Chris McCormick wrote: >>> That is not correct, at least not for many of the Larabie fonts. I >>> use them all >>> the time in my web games and I've been told explicitly either by Ray >>> Larabie >>> himself, or someone working for him/wife/secretary, that that usage >>> (fonts >>> rendered to images) doesn't require a license or any kind of fee. I >>> can dig up >>> the email where I was told this if you want. I know it's true though >>> because I >>> usually send him a link to the game when I'm done and he always replies. >>> >>> As far as I know, a license fee is required on those fonts if you >>> want to >>> distribute the binary font file itself. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 05:17:10PM +0800, Andy H wrote: >>>> Yes - if you open Photoshop, add a text element that uses "My >>>> Expensive Font" and make a title screen, the put that screen in a >>>> game - you have to pay for the license. >>>>> Andy H wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe you can use the fonts that come with the software - for >>>>>> example you can use the fonts in Unity or Shiva, but if you use the >>>>>> fonts in your artwork ontop of buttons or titles you have to pay the >>>>>> license fee afaik >>>>>> >>>>> That... doesn't make sense - are you talking if you use the font in an >>>>> image which you put into your game? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >>>> >>> ------------------- >>> http://mccormick.cx >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >>> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To > unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: pigmi-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: pigmi-help@... |
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