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Re: One more icon request
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Thanks Ben.
Yes, there has been some discussion. Actually, just now in IRC, Jakob
Hilden (jhilden) and I were discussing icons. Hold off on this update
for notification, there's a chance that this icon won't be used, at
least not in it's current state. The option will likely be added to
the Options dropdown menu.
Jakob's going to work Björn to do a test with the icons. Let Jakob
know if you'd like to participate.
As far as the best place to discuss, I'd say here on the -devel list.
Here's the transcript from the IRC discussion I just mentioned.
[2:43p]
jhilden: sure, i got time for icons
thumb: first, here's the current status
thumb: the sidebar icons, or view icons are, or soon will be up-to-
date with Ben Dunkle's new versions
thumb: most of those icons represent view options: slideshow,
fullsize, parent album, item comments
thumb: the one exception right now is the notify module, which adds an
icon to save a watch/notify request or remove it
jhilden: where can i see that?
thumb: enable the notification module, visit an album
thumb: the icon is currently a pair of eyeglasses, once i figure out
git, it will be replace with a bull horn
jhilden: ok
thumb: thought on the bullhorn was that it symbolize notifications
better than watch
thumb: err, sorry, better than eyeglasses
thumb: eyeglasses, to me, mean inspect
jhilden: agree
thumb: Ben also did an alarm clock icon, but this seemed to have too
serious of a connotation
thumb: we're not warning, we're notifying
thumb: difference in urgency
jhilden: i think bullhorn seems reasonable
thumb: cool
thumb: so that will be added soon
jhilden: it has some similarity to the rss soundwaves, that people
should be familiar with
thumb: yeah, i was thinking the same
thumb: notify is only using email now, but rss may be added in the
future
jhilden: although i think the positioning of that icon is very
unfortunate
thumb: some have suggested using an envelope, but that seemed to
narrow to me
thumb: yes, i think we have a problem with mixing icon placement
between view options and other module actions
jhilden: i feel like on the top right there should only be "view
icons" like slideshow, full size, ...
thumb: i agree with that
thumb: perhaps we drop the icon for notify and put in in the options
menu
thumb: that seems more logical to me
jhilden: i think we should definitely show it when you have enabled
notifications for an album
jhilden: because in the menu you can't see whether it's on or not
jhilden: but for adding notifications in the first place i would be OK
with the menu
thumb: it wouldn't be unreasonable to extend our menu system to
account for that
thumb: i still think that options needs to be moved out of the site menu
thumb: placing it to the right of the album title
jhilden: as you know i couldn't agree more
On May 31, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
> Chad,
> Good point on the bullhorn-I think it will make it look much better.
> Is there a discussion about the icons I'm missing? I'm still a
> little confused about the best way to discuss these things-is this
> on an enhancement ticket on the sourceforge site?
>
> -Ben
>
>
> Ben Dunkle
> 15 Coolidge Dr.
> Snyder, NY 14226
> 716-839-0715
> 716-289-6814 (cell)
> ben@...
> www.fieldii.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I think we're going to go with the bull horn icon, seems to convey
>> what we need better than the alarm clock. The alarm clock may carry
>> a more serious connotation, i.e. alarm.
>>
>> One minor comment on the bull horn is that it might be nice to
>> round the end of the bullhorn cone to conform to the same arc/curve
>> of the sound waves. This is minor, and maybe not necessary, it's up
>> to you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chad
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I;ve posted 2 options for the notify icon-
>>> http://fieldii.com/gallery_icons/ico-watch.png
>>> and
>>> http://fieldii.com/gallery_icons/ico-watch2.png
>>>
>>> Either one will need an "unnotify" state; maybe a cross/slash
>>> through the icon--I'm open for suggestions.
>>> Please let me know which one you thinnk works better, or if you
>>> have any suggestions.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>
>>>> A bull horn or alarm clock may work. I think alarm clock might
>>>> represent what the notification module does.
>>>>
>>>> What do others think?
>>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Ben Dunkle <ben@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also gonna try an alarm clock, maybe that fits...
>>>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>>> 15 Coolidge Dr.
>>>>> Snyder, NY 14226
>>>>> 716-839-0715
>>>>> 716-289-6814 (cell)
>>>>> ben@...
>>>>> www.fieldii.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost forgot about the album icon. Can you send that as an
>>>>>> individual image too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I added the eyeglasses icon you provided for add/remove
>>>>>> watch for now. It's much better than what we have now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 6, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>> Here's an idea for the icon-sorry for the slow response, I've
>>>>>>> been crazy busy. Do you think we need one for photos?
>>>>>>> Do you know if the icons will roll out in the next release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <gallery_album.png>
>>>>>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>>>>> 15 Coolidge Dr.
>>>>>>> Snyder, NY 14226
>>>>>>> 716-839-0715
>>>>>>> 716-289-6814 (cell)
>>>>>>> ben@...
>>>>>>> www.fieldii.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was wondering if you could work up a new icon, a photo album
>>>>>>>> icon. The icon would be placed next to titles of album
>>>>>>>> thumbnails to help differentiate them from photo items. It
>>>>>>>> might also be used in an album options menu button.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm going to try to get your icons committed this weekend,
>>>>>>>> will let you know when they're added.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Chad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Yes, there has been some discussion. Actually, just now in IRC, Jakob
Hilden (jhilden) and I were discussing icons. Hold off on this update
for notification, there's a chance that this icon won't be used, at
least not in it's current state. The option will likely be added to
the Options dropdown menu.
Jakob's going to work Björn to do a test with the icons. Let Jakob
know if you'd like to participate.
As far as the best place to discuss, I'd say here on the -devel list.
Here's the transcript from the IRC discussion I just mentioned.
[2:43p]
jhilden: sure, i got time for icons
thumb: first, here's the current status
thumb: the sidebar icons, or view icons are, or soon will be up-to-
date with Ben Dunkle's new versions
thumb: most of those icons represent view options: slideshow,
fullsize, parent album, item comments
thumb: the one exception right now is the notify module, which adds an
icon to save a watch/notify request or remove it
jhilden: where can i see that?
thumb: enable the notification module, visit an album
thumb: the icon is currently a pair of eyeglasses, once i figure out
git, it will be replace with a bull horn
jhilden: ok
thumb: thought on the bullhorn was that it symbolize notifications
better than watch
thumb: err, sorry, better than eyeglasses
thumb: eyeglasses, to me, mean inspect
jhilden: agree
thumb: Ben also did an alarm clock icon, but this seemed to have too
serious of a connotation
thumb: we're not warning, we're notifying
thumb: difference in urgency
jhilden: i think bullhorn seems reasonable
thumb: cool
thumb: so that will be added soon
jhilden: it has some similarity to the rss soundwaves, that people
should be familiar with
thumb: yeah, i was thinking the same
thumb: notify is only using email now, but rss may be added in the
future
jhilden: although i think the positioning of that icon is very
unfortunate
thumb: some have suggested using an envelope, but that seemed to
narrow to me
thumb: yes, i think we have a problem with mixing icon placement
between view options and other module actions
jhilden: i feel like on the top right there should only be "view
icons" like slideshow, full size, ...
thumb: i agree with that
thumb: perhaps we drop the icon for notify and put in in the options
menu
thumb: that seems more logical to me
jhilden: i think we should definitely show it when you have enabled
notifications for an album
jhilden: because in the menu you can't see whether it's on or not
jhilden: but for adding notifications in the first place i would be OK
with the menu
thumb: it wouldn't be unreasonable to extend our menu system to
account for that
thumb: i still think that options needs to be moved out of the site menu
thumb: placing it to the right of the album title
jhilden: as you know i couldn't agree more
On May 31, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
> Chad,
> Good point on the bullhorn-I think it will make it look much better.
> Is there a discussion about the icons I'm missing? I'm still a
> little confused about the best way to discuss these things-is this
> on an enhancement ticket on the sourceforge site?
>
> -Ben
>
>
> Ben Dunkle
> 15 Coolidge Dr.
> Snyder, NY 14226
> 716-839-0715
> 716-289-6814 (cell)
> ben@...
> www.fieldii.com
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I think we're going to go with the bull horn icon, seems to convey
>> what we need better than the alarm clock. The alarm clock may carry
>> a more serious connotation, i.e. alarm.
>>
>> One minor comment on the bull horn is that it might be nice to
>> round the end of the bullhorn cone to conform to the same arc/curve
>> of the sound waves. This is minor, and maybe not necessary, it's up
>> to you.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chad
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I;ve posted 2 options for the notify icon-
>>> http://fieldii.com/gallery_icons/ico-watch.png
>>> and
>>> http://fieldii.com/gallery_icons/ico-watch2.png
>>>
>>> Either one will need an "unnotify" state; maybe a cross/slash
>>> through the icon--I'm open for suggestions.
>>> Please let me know which one you thinnk works better, or if you
>>> have any suggestions.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>
>>>> A bull horn or alarm clock may work. I think alarm clock might
>>>> represent what the notification module does.
>>>>
>>>> What do others think?
>>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Ben Dunkle <ben@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm also gonna try an alarm clock, maybe that fits...
>>>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>>> 15 Coolidge Dr.
>>>>> Snyder, NY 14226
>>>>> 716-839-0715
>>>>> 716-289-6814 (cell)
>>>>> ben@...
>>>>> www.fieldii.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost forgot about the album icon. Can you send that as an
>>>>>> individual image too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I added the eyeglasses icon you provided for add/remove
>>>>>> watch for now. It's much better than what we have now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 6, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Ben Dunkle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>> Here's an idea for the icon-sorry for the slow response, I've
>>>>>>> been crazy busy. Do you think we need one for photos?
>>>>>>> Do you know if the icons will roll out in the next release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <gallery_album.png>
>>>>>>> Ben Dunkle
>>>>>>> 15 Coolidge Dr.
>>>>>>> Snyder, NY 14226
>>>>>>> 716-839-0715
>>>>>>> 716-289-6814 (cell)
>>>>>>> ben@...
>>>>>>> www.fieldii.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Chad Kieffer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was wondering if you could work up a new icon, a photo album
>>>>>>>> icon. The icon would be placed next to titles of album
>>>>>>>> thumbnails to help differentiate them from photo items. It
>>>>>>>> might also be used in an album options menu button.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm going to try to get your icons committed this weekend,
>>>>>>>> will let you know when they're added.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Chad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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