Re: POC Release Announcement for Guilder Build Project

> Andreas,
>
> On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 20:31 -0800, Andreas Schaefer (2) wrote:
>
>> https://madplanet.com'/trac/guilder
>>
>>
>> Basically Guilder indents to replace Maven 2 bringing back some of  
>> the
>> great features of Maven 1 as well as adding new and hopefully cool
>> features. The project is written in Groovy including the POM, the
>> Plugins and the core code. Guilder builds itself using its own code.
>>
>>
>> This release is just a proof of concept and an invitation for you  
>> guys
>> to give feedback to decide on the future of the project.
>
> Some months ago -- at the Grails eXchange 2007 conference in fact --
> Steven Devijver, Hans Dockter, Jochen Theoderou and myself discussed
> where to take Gant.  After some thought after that meeting Hans  
> decided
> he needed to start afresh without the constraints of the Gant code  
> base
> and general philosophy.  The result is Gradle -- Hans (and I guess
> Steven) have been hacking away now for a while.
>
> So the question is whether Guilder and Gradle should slug it out in
> traditional "survival of the fittest" style or whether it would be
> better to collaborate and evolve a Maven/Buildr beater without the  
> need
> for blood on the floor?
>
> Gant itself is of course evolving, though progress towards 2.0 is
> significantly slower since Steven and Hans opted to not contribute to
> Gant but to start Gradle instead :-(