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Re: Plug In America Wants Automakers to Retool for the Future
by Bob Bath
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So GM is forced to merge with Tesla. Silicon Valley types know everything about batteries and writing software to work an EV properly.
Automakers know how to build a car that will pass EPA, NHSTA, and DOT rules. Win-win, unless GM assumes too much leadership in such a partnership...
Thinking about converting a gen. 5 ('92-95) Honda Civic? My $23 "CivicWithACord" DVD (57 mins.) shows ins and outs you'll encounter converting the sedan; the del Sol, or the hatchback. Each runs 144V/18 batteries. Primary focus on component/instrumentation/ battery placement and other considerations. For more info, http://home.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html
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Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe came out of the steering wheel?
OR Lic. "LCTRNS"
--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Lee Hart <leeahart@...> wrote:
> From: Lee Hart <leeahart@...>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Plug In America Wants Automakers to Retool for the Future
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@...>
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 8:41 AM
> lcalarea47 @dslextreme.com wrote:
> > my question is the big 3 auto makers, getting big
> bucks to retool?
> > why not just convert the cars they are making now [gas
> to hybrid] to all
> > hybrids or electric, just change the drivetrain? use
> same bodies?
>
> The alcoholic doesn't want to stop drinking. HE
> doesn't have a problem
> -- YOU have the problem. He wants someone to support him,
> so he can
> continue drinking the way he always has.
>
> I don't think the auto companies have yet come to grips
> with their
> addiction. Their past ways of doing business don't work
> any more. Money
> won't fix it. If they get government money, they will
> spend it to keep
> doing things the way they've always done it. They
> won't change until
> they *have* to change, or die. And even then, they may well
> choose to
> DIE rather than change!
>
> The death of a company is traumatic; but it does not mean
> the death of
> the people working for it. The same number of cars are
> going to get
> built and sold no matter who builds them. If GM goes
> bankrupt, its
> plants will probably be bought by other carmakers, and
> their employees
> will be building Toyotas instead of Chevys.
>
> In my parody story "The Grinch Who Sold
> Green-ness", I cast the Grinch
> as a car company CEO. He has an epiphany, when he realizes
> that he
> should be building the cars *people* want, rather than the
> cars *he*
> wants to build.
> --
> Ring the bells that still can ring
> Forget the perfect offering
> There is a crack in everything
> That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
> --
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>
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Automakers know how to build a car that will pass EPA, NHSTA, and DOT rules. Win-win, unless GM assumes too much leadership in such a partnership...
Thinking about converting a gen. 5 ('92-95) Honda Civic? My $23 "CivicWithACord" DVD (57 mins.) shows ins and outs you'll encounter converting the sedan; the del Sol, or the hatchback. Each runs 144V/18 batteries. Primary focus on component/instrumentation/ battery placement and other considerations. For more info, http://home.budget.net/~bbath/CivicWithACord.html
____
__/__|__\__
=D-------/ - - \
'O'-----'O'-'
Would you still drive your car if the tailpipe came out of the steering wheel?
OR Lic. "LCTRNS"
--- On Sat, 11/22/08, Lee Hart <leeahart@...> wrote:
> From: Lee Hart <leeahart@...>
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Plug In America Wants Automakers to Retool for the Future
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@...>
> Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 8:41 AM
> lcalarea47 @dslextreme.com wrote:
> > my question is the big 3 auto makers, getting big
> bucks to retool?
> > why not just convert the cars they are making now [gas
> to hybrid] to all
> > hybrids or electric, just change the drivetrain? use
> same bodies?
>
> The alcoholic doesn't want to stop drinking. HE
> doesn't have a problem
> -- YOU have the problem. He wants someone to support him,
> so he can
> continue drinking the way he always has.
>
> I don't think the auto companies have yet come to grips
> with their
> addiction. Their past ways of doing business don't work
> any more. Money
> won't fix it. If they get government money, they will
> spend it to keep
> doing things the way they've always done it. They
> won't change until
> they *have* to change, or die. And even then, they may well
> choose to
> DIE rather than change!
>
> The death of a company is traumatic; but it does not mean
> the death of
> the people working for it. The same number of cars are
> going to get
> built and sold no matter who builds them. If GM goes
> bankrupt, its
> plants will probably be bought by other carmakers, and
> their employees
> will be building Toyotas instead of Chevys.
>
> In my parody story "The Grinch Who Sold
> Green-ness", I cast the Grinch
> as a car company CEO. He has an epiphany, when he realizes
> that he
> should be building the cars *people* want, rather than the
> cars *he*
> wants to build.
> --
> Ring the bells that still can ring
> Forget the perfect offering
> There is a crack in everything
> That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
> --
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377,
> leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> General EVDL support: http://evdl.org/help/
> Usage guidelines: http://evdl.org/help/index.html#conv
> Archives: http://evdl.org/archive/
> Subscription options:
> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
_______________________________________________
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Usage guidelines: http://evdl.org/help/index.html#conv
Archives: http://evdl.org/archive/
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