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Re: Plug In America Wants Automakers to Retool for the Future
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The issue with US Auto industry is that 100% of vehicles sold in USA are
different from the rest of the world due to emission and safety regulations.
Only Japanese are capable of making 100% US compliant car in Japan from
Japanese made parts (HONDA FIT, most ACURAS and LEXUS models, TOYOTA YARIS)
While not a single US manufacturer (that includes transplants) is capable to
make 100% US compliant vehicle in USA from US made components !!!
The ONLY vehicle with 95% US parts components is assembled in Canada and it
is CROWN VICTORIA which is about to be discontinued anyway !
Most US cars have only 60% content of North American parts and that is not
any different for MALIBU or CAMRY; who assembles the car is really pointless !
GM pays their workers $63 per hour if all is included, Chrysler about $53
HYUNDAI in Alabama pays $17.53 per hour is all is included.
It takes about 20 hours to assemble any vehicle.
SO that makes any NON big 3 vehicle cost about $1,000 more, but if you
include the inefficiencies and big multimillion bonuses for CEO's then the
difference is more like $2,900 to $3,600 per vehicle.
IF US Consumers would be willing to pay premium for GM over HYUNDAI then
there would be no problem with anything.
Mercedes=Benz gets away with sub standard quality and lot of warranty
problems, Toyota gets away with thousands of engines failing due to "sludge", yet
people still prefer them over GM or FORD due to 20 years behind fact
reputation.
50 MPG + cars have been available from GM, but but few have ever bought them
(GEO METRO), now AVEO sits on dealers lots, while there are none HONDA FIT
in dealer inventory.
If people do not buy it, you can not force it on them no matter what.
Out of the 16 + million only few thousands are Hybrids and only PRIUS has
any notoriety, ACORD and CIVIC is totally invisible and so are all the FORD
models, even when available, without rebate that makes them CHEAPER than
equivalent GAS car, CIVIC Hybrid does not sell !!!
If Plug IN people and EV people have their way, the US new vehicle market
will be at best 4 million and people will resort to fixing 20 year old cars to
keep them running forever, since from 1996 with the OBD II rules newer cars
are too complex to "restore" and parts are generally not available after but 10
years.
Political pressures will make US fleet look like what Cuba has had for
decades (and Russia used to have till 1992)
Forcing anyone to any vehicle because it is good for them is about just as
effective as telling them that they mow have to become Muslim to avoid
terrorist attacks !
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different from the rest of the world due to emission and safety regulations.
Only Japanese are capable of making 100% US compliant car in Japan from
Japanese made parts (HONDA FIT, most ACURAS and LEXUS models, TOYOTA YARIS)
While not a single US manufacturer (that includes transplants) is capable to
make 100% US compliant vehicle in USA from US made components !!!
The ONLY vehicle with 95% US parts components is assembled in Canada and it
is CROWN VICTORIA which is about to be discontinued anyway !
Most US cars have only 60% content of North American parts and that is not
any different for MALIBU or CAMRY; who assembles the car is really pointless !
GM pays their workers $63 per hour if all is included, Chrysler about $53
HYUNDAI in Alabama pays $17.53 per hour is all is included.
It takes about 20 hours to assemble any vehicle.
SO that makes any NON big 3 vehicle cost about $1,000 more, but if you
include the inefficiencies and big multimillion bonuses for CEO's then the
difference is more like $2,900 to $3,600 per vehicle.
IF US Consumers would be willing to pay premium for GM over HYUNDAI then
there would be no problem with anything.
Mercedes=Benz gets away with sub standard quality and lot of warranty
problems, Toyota gets away with thousands of engines failing due to "sludge", yet
people still prefer them over GM or FORD due to 20 years behind fact
reputation.
50 MPG + cars have been available from GM, but but few have ever bought them
(GEO METRO), now AVEO sits on dealers lots, while there are none HONDA FIT
in dealer inventory.
If people do not buy it, you can not force it on them no matter what.
Out of the 16 + million only few thousands are Hybrids and only PRIUS has
any notoriety, ACORD and CIVIC is totally invisible and so are all the FORD
models, even when available, without rebate that makes them CHEAPER than
equivalent GAS car, CIVIC Hybrid does not sell !!!
If Plug IN people and EV people have their way, the US new vehicle market
will be at best 4 million and people will resort to fixing 20 year old cars to
keep them running forever, since from 1996 with the OBD II rules newer cars
are too complex to "restore" and parts are generally not available after but 10
years.
Political pressures will make US fleet look like what Cuba has had for
decades (and Russia used to have till 1992)
Forcing anyone to any vehicle because it is good for them is about just as
effective as telling them that they mow have to become Muslim to avoid
terrorist attacks !
**************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks,
and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com
today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp
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