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Re: Presentation at the OOoCon this morning => Next Steps

by Ivan M :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Bernhard, all,

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold
<bernhard@...> wrote:
> [...]
>
> With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including
> people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite
> positively.

Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different
projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project.
They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we
may not have considered yet.

As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I
don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with
us.

> [...]
> The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the
> day.

Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in
(some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video
later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the
presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!) - you covered
all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the
comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That
makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's
branding/identity.

Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon!

Regards,
Ivan.

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Re: Presentation at the OOoCon this morning => Next Steps

by Bernhard Dippold-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Ivan, all,

sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job
than at other times...
(even this reply will be short...)

Ivan M schrieb:

> Hi Bernhard, all,
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold
> <bernhard@...>  wrote:
>    
>> [...]
>>
>> With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in including
>> people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite
>> positively.
>>      
> Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different
> projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project.
> They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we
> may not have considered yet.
>    
There are two things necessarily to be decided before the creation of a
new incubator project:
- the project mission statement
- the project's name

All the other decisions on the project could be done afterwards, but I
don't think we should hurry anyway.

As multi-project discussions are quite problematic (not all the mails
are posted to all the relevant lists, some have to become moderated) -
what do you think of a dedicated wiki page where we could collect the
relevant thoughts and ideas?
> As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I
> don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with
> us.
>
>    
All the Sun people I talked to agreed in the necessity to work together
on a general branding. For Stefan Taxhet the first step before creating
an entirely new set of branding artwork would be to look among the
present artwork and define a general branding including these designs.

I'm sorry that Stella has not been at Orvieto, but Stefan, Martin
Hollmichel and others agree with me, that she should be involved in any
development in that area. Perhaps there might be a chance for a
face-to-face meeting at Hamburg during the next months...
>> [...]
>> The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the
>> day.
>>      
> Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in
> (some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video
> later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the
> presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!)
We stayed at the same hotel as neighbours...
>   - you covered
> all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the
> comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That
> makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's
> branding/identity.
>    
Thank you for the kind feedback :-)
The people I talked to at Orvieto seemed to understand what I wanted to
address, so I think, it has been a success.
> Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon!
>    
It was great being there - I met a lot of people I only knew from the
lists and had a really good time there.

Perhaps there might be a chance at one of the next OOoCons to meet more
people from the Art Project (or what ever it's new name will be...)

Remember: Next year's OOoCon will be at Budapest, for 2011 and 2012 the
Call for Locations will start in a few weeks. So if there is an active
OOo group near one of you, talk to them. Perhaps we'll have a OOoCon at
your place...

Best regards

Bernhard
> Regards,
> Ivan.
>
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Re: Presentation at the OOoCon this morning => Next Steps

by Ivan M :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Bernhard, all,

I would love to be able to reply to this but unfortunately, as with
yourself, time is scarce. From tomorrow I will be away on holiday for
a week. Hopefully, in the meantime, more art project members can chip
in with their thoughts - I don't want this to become a discussion just
between us two, but at the same time it would be a shame for this
discussion to go unaddressed. So, please expect a reply from me in a
week's time, but in the meantime, I wish you (and this discussion :))
all the best!

Regards,
Ivan.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Bernhard Dippold
<bernhard@...> wrote:

> Hi Ivan, all,
>
> sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job than
> at other times...
> (even this reply will be short...)
>
> Ivan M schrieb:
>>
>> Hi Bernhard, all,
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold
>> <bernhard@...>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in
>>> including
>>> people from the different projects - and this seems to be taken quite
>>> positively.
>>>
>>
>> Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different
>> projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project.
>> They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we
>> may not have considered yet.
>>
>
> There are two things necessarily to be decided before the creation of a new
> incubator project:
> - the project mission statement
> - the project's name
>
> All the other decisions on the project could be done afterwards, but I don't
> think we should hurry anyway.
>
> As multi-project discussions are quite problematic (not all the mails are
> posted to all the relevant lists, some have to become moderated) - what do
> you think of a dedicated wiki page where we could collect the relevant
> thoughts and ideas?
>>
>> As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I
>> don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with
>> us.
>>
>>
>
> All the Sun people I talked to agreed in the necessity to work together on a
> general branding. For Stefan Taxhet the first step before creating an
> entirely new set of branding artwork would be to look among the present
> artwork and define a general branding including these designs.
>
> I'm sorry that Stella has not been at Orvieto, but Stefan, Martin Hollmichel
> and others agree with me, that she should be involved in any development in
> that area. Perhaps there might be a chance for a face-to-face meeting at
> Hamburg during the next months...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of the
>>> day.
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in
>> (some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video
>> later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the
>> presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!)
>
> We stayed at the same hotel as neighbours...
>>
>>  - you covered
>> all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the
>> comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That
>> makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's
>> branding/identity.
>>
>
> Thank you for the kind feedback :-)
> The people I talked to at Orvieto seemed to understand what I wanted to
> address, so I think, it has been a success.
>>
>> Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon!
>>
>
> It was great being there - I met a lot of people I only knew from the lists
> and had a really good time there.
>
> Perhaps there might be a chance at one of the next OOoCons to meet more
> people from the Art Project (or what ever it's new name will be...)
>
> Remember: Next year's OOoCon will be at Budapest, for 2011 and 2012 the Call
> for Locations will start in a few weeks. So if there is an active OOo group
> near one of you, talk to them. Perhaps we'll have a OOoCon at your place...
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ivan.
>>
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Re: Presentation at the OOoCon this morning => Next Steps

by Graham Lauder-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Thursday 12 November 2009 11:30:51 Bernhard Dippold wrote:
Hi Bernhard,

> Hi Ivan, all,
>
> sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job
> than at other times...
> (even this reply will be short...)

Like Ivan I'm sorry I haven't replied more fully.  After my daughters wedding
this weekend I'll be able make a little more sensible input.  This discussion
is too important to let lie.

Cheers
GL


>
> Ivan M schrieb:
> > Hi Bernhard, all,
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Bernhard Dippold
> >
> > <bernhard@...>  wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> With regard to a new branding project I mentioned my interest in
> >> including people from the different projects - and this seems to be
> >> taken quite positively.
> >
> > Excellent! Then our next step could be to engage with these different
> > projects to develop a framework/structure/scope for the new project.
> > They will probably be able to offer valuable inputs about things we
> > may not have considered yet.
>
> There are two things necessarily to be decided before the creation of a
> new incubator project:
> - the project mission statement
> - the project's name
>
> All the other decisions on the project could be done afterwards, but I
> don't think we should hurry anyway.
>
> As multi-project discussions are quite problematic (not all the mails
> are posted to all the relevant lists, some have to become moderated) -
> what do you think of a dedicated wiki page where we could collect the
> relevant thoughts and ideas?
>
> > As an aside, did you get any comments specifically from Sun staff? I
> > don't think we'll be able to get very far if they're not on board with
> > us.
>
> All the Sun people I talked to agreed in the necessity to work together
> on a general branding. For Stefan Taxhet the first step before creating
> an entirely new set of branding artwork would be to look among the
> present artwork and define a general branding including these designs.
>
> I'm sorry that Stella has not been at Orvieto, but Stefan, Martin
> Hollmichel and others agree with me, that she should be involved in any
> development in that area. Perhaps there might be a chance for a
> face-to-face meeting at Hamburg during the next months...
>
> >> [...]
> >> The video documentation [4] will contain my session too at the end of
> >> the day.
> >
> > Unfortunately the live stream did not work for the room you were in
> > (some of the others were working at the time), so I watched the video
> > later on (I saw Christoph come up to talk to you before the
> > presenation, so it's great that you were able to meet!)
>
> We stayed at the same hotel as neighbours...
>
> >   - you covered
> > all the bases really well, especially at the beginning, with the
> > comparison of the splash screens and various OOo website pages. That
> > makes a very strong case for a new project to coordinate OOo's
> > branding/identity.
>
> Thank you for the kind feedback :-)
> The people I talked to at Orvieto seemed to understand what I wanted to
> address, so I think, it has been a success.
>
> > Thank you Bernhard for being the voice of the art project at OOoCon!
>
> It was great being there - I met a lot of people I only knew from the
> lists and had a really good time there.
>
> Perhaps there might be a chance at one of the next OOoCons to meet more
> people from the Art Project (or what ever it's new name will be...)
>
> Remember: Next year's OOoCon will be at Budapest, for 2011 and 2012 the
> Call for Locations will start in a few weeks. So if there is an active
> OOo group near one of you, talk to them. Perhaps we'll have a OOoCon at
> your place...
>
> Best regards
>
> Bernhard
>
> > Regards,
> > Ivan.
> >
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Re: Presentation at the OOoCon this morning => Next Steps

by Bernhard Dippold-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Graham, Ivan, all

Graham Lauder schrieb:

> On Thursday 12 November 2009 11:30:51 Bernhard Dippold wrote:
> Hi Bernhard,
>    
>> Hi Ivan, all,
>>
>> sorry for not replying earlier, but this week I'm more busy with my job
>> than at other times...
>> (even this reply will be short...)
>>      
> Like Ivan I'm sorry I haven't replied more fully.  After my daughters wedding
> this weekend I'll be able make a little more sensible input.  This discussion
> is too important to let lie.
>
>    
Please take all the time you need - we don't have a deadline :-)

For me it's important that the task keeps on going. Small steps are
sometimes better than larger ones...

I'm just trying to put my ideas on a wiki page in order to make them
editable for everybody interested in this topic.

As the new project will relate to several existing projects and I don't
want to have a discussion divided in different parts on several lists.
Perhaps the wiki is a better place for inter-project discussion...

I'll tell you when the page is ready for public discussion.

Best regards

Bernhard

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