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by Srinivas Manda :: Rate this Message:

I agree to what you say , I would love to have Developers / Designers to
be in the same team but it is not possible

once example as i said earlier ... if developers and designer, BA's are
working at the same time and if the screen design is done ... and we
test the design with the USERS ... it is not really possible to get
feedback from the USERS in 2 weeks or so.. by the time we get the
feedback from USERS developers are done with there coding ... and if we
have some changes .. developers need to change the code ...

-Laksinu

--- In agile-usability@..., William Pietri <william@...>
wrote:
>
>
> The way I normally apply Agile methods, teams work on things together.
>
> If your product needs developers and designers, I think they should be
> on the same team. At the beginning of the sprint, the product manager
> picks stories for the team to do, and over the course of the sprint,
the
> team completes team. When the team succeeds, they succeed together.
And
> when they fail, they also fail together.
>
> It's true that at any given moment, a given individual may be working
on

> a given story. But I think things work best when the relationship
> between an individual and a story is relatively loose and arrived at
> dynamically. My most successful clients have designers and developers
> working together fluidly based on what the story needs at the time.
>
> Does that help answer your question?
>
> William
>
> Srinivas Manda wrote:
> > Thanks William, the problem is in Agile you know that we always buy
> > stories and work on them in sprints ...
> > designers always do early designs so that it can be usability tested
> > before developers actually code it ....
> >
> > in iteration zero if designers work on the features that time
> > developers might buy some stories (technical) and they are busy with

it...

> >
> >
> > 1. Put everybody in the same room.
> > if developers are working on other stories how can they be part
> > of design stories
> > 2. When designers design, encourage them to frequently get feedback
> > from the developers.
> > developers are busy with other stories how can they contribute
> > of the stories that designers might have bought
> > 3. When developers develop, encourage them to frequently get
> > feedback from the designers.
> >
> >
> > -laksinu
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* William Pietri <mailto:william@...
> > *To:* agile-usability@...
> > <mailto:agile-usability@...
> > *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2009 4:38 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [agile-usability] Question_Agile Process_ UIE
> > Virtual Seminar
> >
> > Srinivas Manda wrote:
> >
> >> (in Iteration ZERO developers may not be ready to participate
> >> with designer as they will work on some other technical tasks)
> >>
> >> Once we move on to SECOND Iteration and we will give Requirements
> >> / Screens / Spec of the First feature to the developers so that
> >> they can code it.. and this is where the problem comes **
> >>
> >> *Problem:* If there is a technical problem/Limitation that arises
> >> for the designs that we already worked on ITERATION ZERO how do
> >> we handle it?
> >>
> >
> >
> > My easy three-step solution:
> >
> > 1. Put everybody in the same room.
> > 2. When designers design, encourage them to frequently get
> > feedback from the developers.
> > 3. When developers develop, encourage them to frequently get
> > feedback from the designers.
> >
> >
> > I've seen this approach work well for quite a number of successful
> > teams. It turns out people are never too busy to talk with the guy
> > sitting right next to them, especially when it makes both of their
> > jobs easier.
> >
> > William
> >
> > --
> > William Pietri - william@... - +1-415-643-1024
> > Agile consulting, coaching, and development: http://www.scissor.com/
> > We'd love feedback on our new blog: http://agilefocus.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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