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by Dan Stowell
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2009/4/21, Josh Parmenter <josh@...>:
> I am of the opinion that you only do an RC if you really mean RC. So, I
> don't think we should plan on another one until it becomes obvious one is
> necessary.
I agree
> It won't be until tonight that I could actually get to building anyways as
> my day has been as swamped as my last night.
>
> How about this:
>
> 3.3 with Crucial
> 3.4 work could be towards efficiency and leaning things up over the next
> few months, and working on the UGens -> Quarks idea?
I agree with this approach, in fact I thought it's what we were intending...
> OR - make the move, and we wait a day to test things. The 'bugfix' for
> this, BTW, is as simple as 'install the Quark', so I don't think it would be
> too bad. James - could you just make the new crucial Quark a dependency in
> your Quarks?
I really think that ripping out a chunk of sc, when we've already had
an RC and we really NEED to release 3.3, for the book but also for
other reasons, would be extremely bad timing.
I think the crucial-move could/should be one of the first things we do
in the post-3.3 svn...
Dan
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:42 AM, James Harkins wrote:
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, felix <felix@...> wrote:
> >
> > > its been on my to do list for a long time
> > > but I'm swamped with stuff
> > > ideally I would break it up into crucial which is the bare basics
> > > and crucial-extras which is mostly archaic
> > > I'll try to look at it.
> > > I think there are some methods in main that use crucial extensions
> > >
> >
> > Hmm... non-trivial chance of breakage... right before RC... maybe it's
> > a bit late in the day for this. (This is RC, not beta... but then,
> > releasing beta-quality software is standard practice in the industry!)
> >
> > I don't mean to stand in the way of this, just saying, pulling out a
> > chunk of classes at the last minute without time for testing...
> > "measure twice, cut once." If we're sure there's enough time to
> > measure twice, OK. If we're not sure, maybe it would be better to hold
> > off. (Will there be another RC?)
> >
> > hjh
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Harkins /// dewdrop world
> > jamshark70@...
> > http://www.dewdrop-world.net
> >
> > "Come said the Muse,
> > Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted,
> > Sing me the universal." -- Whitman
> >
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>
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> interpretation of how modern society is structured: whether actively or
> passively, consciously or unconsciously, he makes choices in this regard. He
> may be conservative or he may subject himself to continual renewal; or he
> may strive for a revolutionary, historical or social palingenesis." - Luigi
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> I am of the opinion that you only do an RC if you really mean RC. So, I
> don't think we should plan on another one until it becomes obvious one is
> necessary.
I agree
> It won't be until tonight that I could actually get to building anyways as
> my day has been as swamped as my last night.
>
> How about this:
>
> 3.3 with Crucial
> 3.4 work could be towards efficiency and leaning things up over the next
> few months, and working on the UGens -> Quarks idea?
I agree with this approach, in fact I thought it's what we were intending...
> OR - make the move, and we wait a day to test things. The 'bugfix' for
> this, BTW, is as simple as 'install the Quark', so I don't think it would be
> too bad. James - could you just make the new crucial Quark a dependency in
> your Quarks?
I really think that ripping out a chunk of sc, when we've already had
an RC and we really NEED to release 3.3, for the book but also for
other reasons, would be extremely bad timing.
I think the crucial-move could/should be one of the first things we do
in the post-3.3 svn...
Dan
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 11:42 AM, James Harkins wrote:
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:32 PM, felix <felix@...> wrote:
> >
> > > its been on my to do list for a long time
> > > but I'm swamped with stuff
> > > ideally I would break it up into crucial which is the bare basics
> > > and crucial-extras which is mostly archaic
> > > I'll try to look at it.
> > > I think there are some methods in main that use crucial extensions
> > >
> >
> > Hmm... non-trivial chance of breakage... right before RC... maybe it's
> > a bit late in the day for this. (This is RC, not beta... but then,
> > releasing beta-quality software is standard practice in the industry!)
> >
> > I don't mean to stand in the way of this, just saying, pulling out a
> > chunk of classes at the last minute without time for testing...
> > "measure twice, cut once." If we're sure there's enough time to
> > measure twice, OK. If we're not sure, maybe it would be better to hold
> > off. (Will there be another RC?)
> >
> > hjh
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Harkins /// dewdrop world
> > jamshark70@...
> > http://www.dewdrop-world.net
> >
> > "Come said the Muse,
> > Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted,
> > Sing me the universal." -- Whitman
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sc-dev mailing list
> >
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> http://www.beast.bham.ac.uk/research/sc_mailing_lists.shtml
> > archive: http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/marchives/sc-dev/
> > search:
> http://www.listarc.bham.ac.uk/lists/sc-dev/search/
> >
>
> ******************************************
> /* Joshua D. Parmenter
> http://www.realizedsound.net/josh/
>
> “Every composer – at all times and in all cases – gives his own
> interpretation of how modern society is structured: whether actively or
> passively, consciously or unconsciously, he makes choices in this regard. He
> may be conservative or he may subject himself to continual renewal; or he
> may strive for a revolutionary, historical or social palingenesis." - Luigi
> Nono
> */
>
>
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