Am Fri, 18 Jan 2008 5:55:27 -0800
schrieb <
darrinps@...>:
> In short, why not give people the option? I for one like an all in
> one download and auto configuration.
Yes, of course options are good. But generally I think one should
consider whether or not to actually provide such an option, or, put
another way, who would benefit from that:
- Talking about desktop applications, so far a lot of people I know
(both Java and non-Java developers) do their persistence of data using
some home-brewn file/xml/whatever-based storage mechanisms. In this
situation, introducing a consistent development framework including,
say, the Swing Application Framework and a lightweight database
engine (JavaDB, HSQL, sqlite, whatever) could provide them with a
better way of building applications, a better way of getting their job
done, and, asides this, introduce some kind of "Rapid Application
Development" feeling to NetBeans which made people run for Delphi
(building GUI apps that persist stuff in dBase files) aeons ago...
- Talking about anything server, I don't see no benefit in bundling it.
As soon as you're about to do "real-world" applications using any of
these (no matter whether application server or backend RDBMS), you will
have to think about a standalone installation, possibly a production
and a testbed system, and about integration of those to with your IDE
anyhow. A preinstalled local server doesn't help much here I guess.
So, I wonder who could actually benefit from having an SQL server
database bundled with an IDE installation, possibly even having
components depending on it to be installed locally?
Cheers,
Kristian
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