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by Mike Schwab
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On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Charles Durrett
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> --- In hercules-390@..., Tony Harminc <tharminc@...> wrote:
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>> On 12 September 2011 19:28, Charles Durrett <charles.durrett@...> wrote:
>> ...
>> >
>> > I can IPL MVS 3.8J from CPU 00.
>>
>> Really?! With ARCHMODE z/Arch ? To say nothing of 5 CPUs and 512 MB
>> of storage...
>>
>
> Yeah, really. I did have to change the ARCHMODE of CPU 00 to S/370 though. (I wonder if the MVS 3.8J NIPs can be made smart enough to do that themselves?)
>
>> > I can *not* IPL MVS 3.8J from CPU 03, 04. The HERCULES console gives me the following when I try.
>> >
>> > ...
>> > ipl 0150
>> > HHCCP011I CPU0003: Disabled wait state
>> > PSW=00020000 80000001
>> > ...
>> >
>> > That looks serious but I can't get a lock on it with z/OS docu.
>> >
>> > Does this PSW ring a bell with anyone?
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>> Off the top of my head I'd guess it's a program check 1, when MVS
>> tries its first TIO or SSM or the like as part of the IPL process.
>
> Thanks, I'll look in that direction.
>
>>
>> Have you considered running zLinux on the z890, and Hercules under
>> that, providing 370 mode for your MVS 3.8?
>
> No I didn't consider that. I'm actually more interested in going backward that forward.
>
> It would offend my engineering aesthetics to run on a late model OS/360-heritage box a "PDP-11" (the 'c' language is a pre-processor for the PDP-11 assembler you know :-) ) emulator, aka zLinux, running an S/370 emulator, aka HERCULES, in order to run MVS.
>
> I'd rather twiddle millicode or put a thin software layer on the z890 to get it to behave.
>How about the trial z/VM with an home brew I/O translator to support
S/370 channels?
>>
>> And, uh, do you have DASD on your machine?
>
> Heh. No. Assembling parts. (And wondering if it is possible to get the z890 Service Elements to provide the same sort of Basic Emulated IO that they could for the Multiprise series.)
>
The IBM ESS F20 are getting dropped from support 12/2012 so they
should be getting cheap.
>> Tony H.
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> Chuck
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<charles.durrett@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In hercules-390@..., Tony Harminc <tharminc@...> wrote:
>>
>> On 12 September 2011 19:28, Charles Durrett <charles.durrett@...> wrote:
>> ...
>> >
>> > I can IPL MVS 3.8J from CPU 00.
>>
>> Really?! With ARCHMODE z/Arch ? To say nothing of 5 CPUs and 512 MB
>> of storage...
>>
>
> Yeah, really. I did have to change the ARCHMODE of CPU 00 to S/370 though. (I wonder if the MVS 3.8J NIPs can be made smart enough to do that themselves?)
>
>> > I can *not* IPL MVS 3.8J from CPU 03, 04. The HERCULES console gives me the following when I try.
>> >
>> > ...
>> > ipl 0150
>> > HHCCP011I CPU0003: Disabled wait state
>> > PSW=00020000 80000001
>> > ...
>> >
>> > That looks serious but I can't get a lock on it with z/OS docu.
>> >
>> > Does this PSW ring a bell with anyone?
>>
>> Off the top of my head I'd guess it's a program check 1, when MVS
>> tries its first TIO or SSM or the like as part of the IPL process.
>
> Thanks, I'll look in that direction.
>
>>
>> Have you considered running zLinux on the z890, and Hercules under
>> that, providing 370 mode for your MVS 3.8?
>
> No I didn't consider that. I'm actually more interested in going backward that forward.
>
> It would offend my engineering aesthetics to run on a late model OS/360-heritage box a "PDP-11" (the 'c' language is a pre-processor for the PDP-11 assembler you know :-) ) emulator, aka zLinux, running an S/370 emulator, aka HERCULES, in order to run MVS.
>
> I'd rather twiddle millicode or put a thin software layer on the z890 to get it to behave.
>
S/370 channels?
>>
>> And, uh, do you have DASD on your machine?
>
> Heh. No. Assembling parts. (And wondering if it is possible to get the z890 Service Elements to provide the same sort of Basic Emulated IO that they could for the Multiprise series.)
>
The IBM ESS F20 are getting dropped from support 12/2012 so they
should be getting cheap.
>> Tony H.
>>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
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Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
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