Re: Reviving the Columba Project

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(I'm posting my thoughts here, as I do not have write access on the wiki)

 

Hi,

 

I'm a new user of Columba, and I'm glad to have found a good email client. I am disapointed by the major clients available on windows (even Thunderbird seems to handle IMAP correctly only once in a month...) , but it seems that Columba is very stable and has a lot of space for improvements.

 

I saw that the project is not quite dead, and that some of you are heavily thinking about how the project could be continued. Here are some thoughts:

 

- using Netbeans RCP would make development easier, in particular for plugins

- maybe that Macchiato should be replaced by another recent spam engine, as the development as not been continued for two years (correct me if I'm wrong) and spammers have changed a lot the way the act. It may be a lot of work to have a performant spam engine

- the GUI could be separated from the storage engine and reused nearly 'as is' for let's say an RSS agregator

 

What you are planning to do seems to be a lot of work, especially if you want to restart from scratch to use an RCP for the GUI.

 

I am ready to contribute to the project in my spare time, as I am currently looking for something to do in Java.

I will follow the different threads about the future of columbia and see if it will fit my developers needs ;)

 

Best regards,

 

Bastien

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Hi Bastien

Thanks for your input.

My current thoughts are to slim Columba down to the bare essentials (sending & receving mails).  All the other stuff can be added once we have got the core application up and running(ie the calendar, spam filter etc etc).

With regards to the spam filter i tend to agree with you. There are some great projects out there, lets utilise one of them and get on with the Columba development.

As I see it we currently have 2 tasks in front of us:

1. Decide on Javamail vs Ristretto - and if the decision is made to use javamail there is a lot of work ahead
2. Port the application to a RCP (My vote is for Netbeans)

Cheers
Tim

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Bastien Jansen <bastien.jansen@...> wrote:

(I'm posting my thoughts here, as I do not have write access on the wiki)

 

Hi,

 

I'm a new user of Columba, and I'm glad to have found a good email client. I am disapointed by the major clients available on windows (even Thunderbird seems to handle IMAP correctly only once in a month...) , but it seems that Columba is very stable and has a lot of space for improvements.

 

I saw that the project is not quite dead, and that some of you are heavily thinking about how the project could be continued. Here are some thoughts:

 

- using Netbeans RCP would make development easier, in particular for plugins

- maybe that Macchiato should be replaced by another recent spam engine, as the development as not been continued for two years (correct me if I'm wrong) and spammers have changed a lot the way the act. It may be a lot of work to have a performant spam engine

- the GUI could be separated from the storage engine and reused nearly 'as is' for let's say an RSS agregator

 

What you are planning to do seems to be a lot of work, especially if you want to restart from scratch to use an RCP for the GUI.

 

I am ready to contribute to the project in my spare time, as I am currently looking for something to do in Java.

I will follow the different threads about the future of columbia and see if it will fit my developers needs ;)

 

Best regards,

 

Bastien

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On Wednesday 20 May 2009 17:59:19 Timothy Sparg wrote:
> Hi Bastien
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> My current thoughts are to slim Columba down to the bare essentials
> (sending & receving mails). All the other stuff can be added once we have
> got the core application up and running(ie the calendar, spam filter etc
> etc).
>
> With regards to the spam filter i tend to agree with you. There are some
> great projects out there, lets utilise one of them and get on with the
> Columba development.
>
> As I see it we currently have 2 tasks in front of us:
>
> 1. Decide on Javamail vs Ristretto - and if the decision is made to use
> javamail there is a lot of work ahead
> 2. Port the application to a RCP (My vote is for Netbeans)
>
> Cheers
> Tim

For both tasks, it could be helpful to write a sort of matrix which lists the features provided by the two alternatives (I guess they have a lot of common features, sometimes with an easier way to use it etc.).

When you have a global idea about what they provide and how easy it is to use them, the choice should be fairly simple to make.

I also agree that getting the core application (email) running is one of the first steps. If you decide to use an RCP, a calendar, addressbook and other features will integrate nicely in the GUI later (Something like Kontact from KDE would be great, as there's no such tool on windows).

Bastien

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