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by Viktor Klang :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Tony Morris <tmorris@...> wrote:
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This is why I lobby for type theory in universities - idiotic remarks
from self-proclaimed professionals just makes me cringe in a "I feel
embarrassed for you" kind of way.

Yeah, cheap-shots are way lame.
I reacted the same way as  you did.

Cheers man,
-V
 


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Tony Morris
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James Iry wrote:
> Here are some more quotes from people on the Fan forums.  It
> appears that Fan is the anti-Scala.  Has Scala gotten big enough to
> have a backlash already?
>
> "Scala is an example of static typing gone wrong."
>
> "I agree that Scala is too complicated and that Fan is better. "
>
> "I agree that Scala style outside most common experience. Option
> types and their behavior like Lists in Scala works well there, but
> I personally don't think it's good for Fan."
>
> "The reason I am hesitant [about having a 'trait' keyword] is that
> it sounds too much like Scala. Scala folks could look at Fan and
> say "wannabe", and non-Scala-loving folks could see it and be
> afraid it looked like Scala."
>
> "Concerning Scala...perfect static typing is a red herring."
>
> "But in general, I'd take Fan's current system over Scala's
> generics and abstract types. Time will tell what proves popular
> (not necessarily what works best, though)."
>
> "My concern is that if people think of it as |star|, they may be
> more likely to use it creatively. And creative operator overloading
>  is one of the sad things for C++ (and Scala). Makes code hard to
> understand."
>
> "I understand how FP has garnered a lot of interest recently, but
> its not where most developers are at. In fact I suspect that Scala
> will remain a niche language at least in part because of being
> quite FP focussed."
>
> "Thanks Brian & Andy for giving the JVM world a saner alternative
> to Scala. Keep things simple and clean!"
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Meredith Gregory
> <lgreg.meredith@... <mailto:lgreg.meredith@...>> wrote:
>
>
> Rob,
>
> Here is a quote from the Fan website indicating their position on
> generics.
>
>


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