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Re: Serialisation of openEHR Models

by Jussara macedo :: Rate this Message:

Pablo,

Ed Hammond is on this list, I think he´s always recognized the value of clinical model and archetypes, but hasn´t fully acknowledged OpenEHR approach. HL7 has been trying to develop their own DCM and presently, as Sam reported on this list, there´s an initiative led by Stan Huff, a former HL7 chair to harmonize the formalism to model clinical content. What I meant is that there´s already 18 years of hard work in this community and I do hope HL7 use it and not try to build from scratch. Would be a complete waste of time and money. I think, both communities can be useful to one another and, here in Brazil, we´re definitely trying to work together to have a single coherent multilevel approach where both OpenEHR and HL7 play an important role. If you prefer to see the half full glass I prefer to believe that there´s place for everyone in this world.

Jussara Rötzsch

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:12 PM, pablo pazos <pazospablo@...> wrote:

I still want to see the glass of water half full: this is in fact a validation and the recognition of an emblematic member of HL7 that the openEHR approach is useful and needed to reach true interoperability, the name (archetype, data element, ...) is not the important part, neither who invented it first, but the use of the same concept is the key.

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Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 15:50:42 +0000

From: thomas.beale@...
To: openehr-clinical@...
Subject: Re: Serialisation of openEHR Models

On 07/11/2011 13:54, pablo pazos wrote:

Last week I attended to an Ed Hammond's talk in Argentina, and in his presentation he mention a new concept to reach true interoperability: the data element.

Please see page 13-14: http://www.hospitalitaliano.org.ar/archivos/noticias_archivos/11/Jornadas2011/11_11.01-03-Hammond-Interoperability-BuenosAires.pdf

I asked him why this sounds so much like openEHR archetypes and why don't reuse this concept instead of creating a new one (or at least renaming it). He told me "everyone want his own standard", that was very sad.

Besides that, what I see (and many people on that room that know what is an archetype) is a validation of an important figure on HL7 that archetypes work, do the job, and are necessary for interoperability. So, I think HL7 is very interested on archetypes right now.

I hope that soon Mr. Hammond could do a presentation on standarization that show the best of the breed instead of reinventing/renaming the wheel.

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With all respect to Ed (and he deserves a great deal), if in sentences like the one you quoted above you replace 'everyone' with 'HL7', the situation today starts to make more sense.

- thomas

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