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Re: Shale Test
by Kito Mann
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gary VanMatre <gvanmatre@...>wrote:
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Kito Mann" <kito.mann@...>
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Gary VanMatre <gvanmatre@...
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "Kito Mann" <kito.mann@...>
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > At JSFOne we were discussing Shale Test, and again the idea of moving
> it
> > > out
> > > > of Shale popped up. With so little activity in the Shale project, I'd
> > > like
> > > > to bring up the issue of migrating it to MyFaces proper, or out of
> > > MyFaces
> > > > all-together. Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Any contributions to the shale project are much appreciated. What do
> you
> > > mean by "out of MyFaces all-together"? Kito, do you have interest in
> > > supporting this library under the shale community?
> >
> >
> > Well, there has been interest in supporting Shale Test inside of JSFUnit
> --
> > that's what I meant by "out of MyFaces all-together". Basically, I think
> the
> > community could use and updated and and active version of Shale Test, and
> > the Shale community doesn't seem to have the bandwidth (or interest) in
> > making that happen. Given the fact that a lot of MyFaces projects use it,
> I
> > could see how MyFaces may be a better place for it, *if* people in that
> > community have cycles for it. Otherwise, it may fare better somewhere
> else.
> >
> > I certainly have interest in working on Shale Test regardless of where it
> is
> > (I have a nice little Spring integration class, for instance), but I
> don't
> > have the bandwidth to personally push the project forward.
> >
>
> I see. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Shale welcomes anyone that
> is
> willing to contribute to the project in the way of documentation or code
> contributions.
>
> Since the Shale project is not indirectly sponsored by a commercial entity,
> we don't necessary have another product driving the release.
That's fine, but I don't really see _anyone_ driving releases :-). What's
the problem with letting Shale Test move somewhere else?
> I'm certain
> that Shale would be more than willing to work with the Jboss group within
> the shale community.
The problem, though, is that Shale Test is part of a project that has
stagnated. So, even if Shale Test moves forward, it's difficult to get
traction if the whole project is perceived as stale. Do you see what I'm
saying?
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
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> >
> >
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>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Kito Mann" <kito.mann@...>
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Gary VanMatre <gvanmatre@...
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "Kito Mann" <kito.mann@...>
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > At JSFOne we were discussing Shale Test, and again the idea of moving
> it
> > > out
> > > > of Shale popped up. With so little activity in the Shale project, I'd
> > > like
> > > > to bring up the issue of migrating it to MyFaces proper, or out of
> > > MyFaces
> > > > all-together. Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Any contributions to the shale project are much appreciated. What do
> you
> > > mean by "out of MyFaces all-together"? Kito, do you have interest in
> > > supporting this library under the shale community?
> >
> >
> > Well, there has been interest in supporting Shale Test inside of JSFUnit
> --
> > that's what I meant by "out of MyFaces all-together". Basically, I think
> the
> > community could use and updated and and active version of Shale Test, and
> > the Shale community doesn't seem to have the bandwidth (or interest) in
> > making that happen. Given the fact that a lot of MyFaces projects use it,
> I
> > could see how MyFaces may be a better place for it, *if* people in that
> > community have cycles for it. Otherwise, it may fare better somewhere
> else.
> >
> > I certainly have interest in working on Shale Test regardless of where it
> is
> > (I have a nice little Spring integration class, for instance), but I
> don't
> > have the bandwidth to personally push the project forward.
> >
>
> I see. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Shale welcomes anyone that
> is
> willing to contribute to the project in the way of documentation or code
> contributions.
>
> Since the Shale project is not indirectly sponsored by a commercial entity,
> we don't necessary have another product driving the release.
That's fine, but I don't really see _anyone_ driving releases :-). What's
the problem with letting Shale Test move somewhere else?
> I'm certain
> that Shale would be more than willing to work with the Jboss group within
> the shale community.
The problem, though, is that Shale Test is part of a project that has
stagnated. So, even if Shale Test moves forward, it's difficult to get
traction if the whole project is perceived as stale. Do you see what I'm
saying?
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > > > http://twitter.com/kito99
> > > > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and
> mentoring
> > > > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > > > +1 203-404-4848 x3
> > > >
> > > > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > > > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > http://twitter.com/kito99
> > http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
> > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
> > +1 203-404-4848 x3
> >
> > * Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
> > http://oi.vresp.com/?fid=ac048d0e17 *
>
>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
http://twitter.com/kito99
http://www.virtua.com - JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
+1 203-404-4848 x3
* Sign up for the JSF Central newsletter!
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