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Re: Should we officially kill the 0.22 ?
by Daniel Gollub-2
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On Wednesday 25 March 2009 10:40:19 am Juha Tuomala wrote:
> There is a discussion in fedora-devel list what to do with the mess
> after these non-upstream-communicated 0.3x updates into stable distro.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479954
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01272.html
>
> Now the plan is to revert it back to 0.22, with the argument that 'it
> works'. Well, for me it mostly never did. And everyone here knows the
> reasons and focuses to the trunk, which is of course the right thing to do.
>
> I think that decision is partly based on distro guide banner at front page
> that states that 0.22 is the last stable and you should not use the 0.3x
> series. Well, that's true, but it's not supported either. Some user might
> get hand holding at #opensync but nobody actually cares about 0.22 anyway,
> it's just about being nice and trying to help them. Last actual changes in
> 0.22 are two years old already and I don't think nobody of you have even
> compiled it for ages.
I don't agree here - there are many lucky people which managed to get 0.22
working. Updating to some 0.3x might break things again.
They should downgrade to 0.22 for the time being. Upgrading to 0.40 will be
also kind of supported by configuration update helpers (e.g. OSyncUpdater). I
don't plan to support 0.36 update to 0.4x or so.
>
> In my opinion, we should forget the 0.22 and announce it dead. It just
> takes focus and time from trunk that we don't have. Distros having 0.22 is
> just making hundreds of users to try it and it's not necesssairly a PR that
> we want as it's not working and nobody really supports it. Instead we could
> lead the crowd to focus to trunk and that could potentially bring new
> developers. It would definately increase testing and bug reporting, which
> is not bad either.
>
> The fact is that 0.2x is dead and IMO we should say it.
We're a completely understaffed. I don't want to waste time discussing this
which i could use making 0.40 ready. So please respect my ignorant decision
for now and bear with me some more weeks to get 0.40 out. Thanks!
0.22 is great - since there a lot of people out which managed somehow to get
things working. Usually those people which have working setup without lot of
pain don't make big noise about something working - it's only the "few" which
have troubles ;)
Best Regards,
Daniel
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> There is a discussion in fedora-devel list what to do with the mess
> after these non-upstream-communicated 0.3x updates into stable distro.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479954
> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01272.html
>
> Now the plan is to revert it back to 0.22, with the argument that 'it
> works'. Well, for me it mostly never did. And everyone here knows the
> reasons and focuses to the trunk, which is of course the right thing to do.
>
> I think that decision is partly based on distro guide banner at front page
> that states that 0.22 is the last stable and you should not use the 0.3x
> series. Well, that's true, but it's not supported either. Some user might
> get hand holding at #opensync but nobody actually cares about 0.22 anyway,
> it's just about being nice and trying to help them. Last actual changes in
> 0.22 are two years old already and I don't think nobody of you have even
> compiled it for ages.
I don't agree here - there are many lucky people which managed to get 0.22
working. Updating to some 0.3x might break things again.
They should downgrade to 0.22 for the time being. Upgrading to 0.40 will be
also kind of supported by configuration update helpers (e.g. OSyncUpdater). I
don't plan to support 0.36 update to 0.4x or so.
>
> In my opinion, we should forget the 0.22 and announce it dead. It just
> takes focus and time from trunk that we don't have. Distros having 0.22 is
> just making hundreds of users to try it and it's not necesssairly a PR that
> we want as it's not working and nobody really supports it. Instead we could
> lead the crowd to focus to trunk and that could potentially bring new
> developers. It would definately increase testing and bug reporting, which
> is not bad either.
>
> The fact is that 0.2x is dead and IMO we should say it.
We're a completely understaffed. I don't want to waste time discussing this
which i could use making 0.40 ready. So please respect my ignorant decision
for now and bear with me some more weeks to get 0.40 out. Thanks!
0.22 is great - since there a lot of people out which managed somehow to get
things working. Usually those people which have working setup without lot of
pain don't make big noise about something working - it's only the "few" which
have troubles ;)
Best Regards,
Daniel
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