Re: Should we officially kill the 0.22 ?

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Hi Daniel,

Daniel Gollub wrote:

> I don't agree here - there are many lucky people which managed to get 0.22
> working. Updating to some 0.3x might break things again.
>
> They should downgrade to 0.22 for the time being. Upgrading to 0.40 will be
> also kind of supported by configuration update helpers (e.g. OSyncUpdater). I
> don't plan to support 0.36 update to 0.4x or so.

Actually I think that 0.22 is in EOS state (End-Of-Support). This is
what Juha and Bricks mean. I agree on this. EOS does not mean EOL. If
there is a distro which want to fix it then they can do it in our or in
their VCS. The simple question today is, if you want to focus on 0.40
development who supports 0.22? We need real commitments here.

Additionally 0.22 worked in the past because the old mobile software
tolerates a lot of problems. The new (Nokia) devices are much more
strict in terms of the SyncML specification.

> We're a completely understaffed. I don't want to waste time discussing this
> which i could use making 0.40 ready. So please respect my ignorant decision
> for now and bear with me some more weeks to get 0.40 out. Thanks!

Stop. This is an unacceptable statement. Nobody has the right to stop a
discussion by its authority. If somebody has no time to discuss then
this one is not interested in the discussions background which means the
opinion does not matter. So the important point is, if you have no time
for discussing it because of your work on 0.40, then the 0.22 support is
not your thing which means the others can discuss and decide the issue
without you.

Such a statement like the above is dictator style and can only cause
frustration and aggressions. No single developer has the right to make
decisions on its own in case of a "conflict" and denying an open
discussion (especially if there are different opinions by other
developers or supporters in this case).

Again aborting a discussion is against the rules of open development. We
have definitely no ruling authority. This is a question of netiquette.

So back to the discussion is the only acceptable way. All developers and
users wait for a stable release/API. You are not the only one ;)

> 0.22 is great - since there a lot of people out which managed somehow to get
> things working. Usually those people which have working setup without lot of
> pain don't make big noise about something working - it's only the "few" which
> have troubles ;)

Simply all new Nokia S40 devices does not work. The most S60 devices
should not work too. So a "few" is really relative ;)

Best regards

Michael
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