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Re: Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5
Worse, I've had Firefox crash multiple times while entering releases into MusicBrainz. It happened _every time_ I tried to enter a release for a 99-track CD (no, they weren't in freedb so I couldn't just import) (this was over 3 different releases, though obviously I ended up being successful the 2nd or 3rd try for each). If the cause is too many links, then I guess it would be the 99 artist URL's popping in and out when I change the artists.
So, confirmed under Windows 7 x64 with Firefox 3.5.1. On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:30 PM, <musicbrainz-users-request@...> wrote:
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1. Cover art for bootlegs (James Le Cuirot)
2. Re: Cover art for bootlegs (Paul C. Bryan)
3. Re: Cover art for bootlegs (Paul C. Bryan)
4. Question on MP3 Anthology (jdc0730)
5. Re: Question on MP3 Anthology (Brian Schweitzer)
6. Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ? (Edward J. Shornock)
7. Re: Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ? (Brian Schweitzer)
8. Re: Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ? (Age Bosma)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:40:20 +0100
From: James Le Cuirot <chewi@...>
Subject: [mb-users] Cover art for bootlegs
To: musicbrainz-users@...
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I have a Russian bootleg release of Iron Maiden's Dance of Death. The
cover on it was (don't have it to hand anymore) so convincing that I
didn't even know it was a bootleg until I found out that the extra track
"Pass the Jam" shouldn't be on there. This release is in MB but it
doesn't have any cover art assigned to it. Since the cover art was
identical, I could relate it to an Amazon ASIN but I'm guessing that
wouldn't be very popular? Or is that okay? If not, can I just link it
to some identical image from archive.org?
James
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:16:33 -0700
From: "Paul C. Bryan" <email@...>
Subject: Re: [mb-users] Cover art for bootlegs
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
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-1!
ASIN linking yields more than just cover art. According to
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Amazon_Relationship_Type, "The purpose of
the Amazon relationship is to provide cover images, but also additional
information for releases."
Amazon ARs are voted against and regularly removed from the MB database
when it is found that the ASIN does not match the MB release.
Paul
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 14:40 +0100, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> I have a Russian bootleg release of Iron Maiden's Dance of Death. The
> cover on it was (don't have it to hand anymore) so convincing that I
> didn't even know it was a bootleg until I found out that the extra track
> "Pass the Jam" shouldn't be on there. This release is in MB but it
> doesn't have any cover art assigned to it. Since the cover art was
> identical, I could relate it to an Amazon ASIN but I'm guessing that
> wouldn't be very popular? Or is that okay? If not, can I just link it
> to some identical image from archive.org?
>
> James
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:24:12 -0700
From: "Paul C. Bryan" <email@...>
Subject: Re: [mb-users] Cover art for bootlegs
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
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Whoops, so caught up in the Amazon question, I forgot the other half.
As far as I know, linking to cover art through Archive.org is
acceptable, though at some times controversial. FWIW, I'd personally be
okay with it.
Paul
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 14:40 +0100, James Le Cuirot wrote:
> I have a Russian bootleg release of Iron Maiden's Dance of Death. The
> cover on it was (don't have it to hand anymore) so convincing that I
> didn't even know it was a bootleg until I found out that the extra track
> "Pass the Jam" shouldn't be on there. This release is in MB but it
> doesn't have any cover art assigned to it. Since the cover art was
> identical, I could relate it to an Amazon ASIN but I'm guessing that
> wouldn't be very popular? Or is that okay? If not, can I just link it
> to some identical image from archive.org?
>
> James
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: jdc0730 <Jeff.Christoffersen@...>
Subject: [mb-users] Question on MP3 Anthology
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I was attempting to clean up the entire for Oval Opus
(http://musicbrainz.org/artist/40736ef7-b989-4edb-a14d-124eeadcfdf3.html)
and have a question. In 2006, they released a CD containing MP3s for their
entire catalog. See http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ovalopus5. The MP3 collection
also contained 3 additional bonus tracks. I am not sure what to do with
this. It would seem I have the following options:
1. Add a new release with all the tracks from all the albums including the
bonus tracks.
2. Add the 3 bonus tracks as a release (not sure what type this would be)
3. Add the 3 bonus tracks as non-album tracks.
Can anyone provide any guidance? I suspect number 1 is the way to go but
wanted confirmation. Also with this type of disc should it be marked as a
CD or Digital Media?
Thanks,
Jeff (jdc0730)
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:51:25 -0400
From: Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer@...>
Subject: Re: [mb-users] Question on MP3 Anthology
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:34 PM, jdc0730 <
Jeff.Christoffersen@...> wrote:
>
> I was attempting to clean up the entire for Oval Opus
> (http://musicbrainz.org/artist/40736ef7-b989-4edb-a14d-124eeadcfdf3.html)
> and have a question. In 2006, they released a CD containing MP3s for their
> entire catalog. See http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/ovalopus5. The MP3
> collection
> also contained 3 additional bonus tracks. I am not sure what to do with
> this. It would seem I have the following options:
>
> 1. Add a new release with all the tracks from all the albums including the
> bonus tracks.
> 2. Add the 3 bonus tracks as a release (not sure what type this would be)
> 3. Add the 3 bonus tracks as non-album tracks.
>
> Can anyone provide any guidance? I suspect number 1 is the way to go but
> wanted confirmation. Also with this type of disc should it be marked as a
> CD or Digital Media?
>
I would go with #1 in alphabetical order, per the section of the NAT
guideline dealing with such CD ROM collections:
MP3 CD-ROM collections Sometimes an artist or label will release a number of
songs as MP3 files on a CD-ROM rather than as an audio disc; these should be
entered as normal albums (or compilations, etc. if that is more
appropriate). If there is no explicit track order in the filenames, they
should be listed in alphabetical order as that is how most MP3 CD-ROM
capable players will play them. Brian
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:49:17 +0300
From: "Edward J. Shornock" <ed.shornock@...>
Subject: [mb-users] Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ?
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
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Does anyone else have a problem with Firefox locking on artist pages
that have a crap load of releases, such as the WA Mozart
artist page
<http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b972f589-fb0e-474e-b64a-803b0364fa75.html>,
or even J.S. Bach
<http://musicbrainz.org/artist/24f1766e-9635-4d58-a4d4-9413f9f98a4c.html>?
I've been able to successfully reproduce this problem with
- Debian's Iceweasel 3.5.x x64
- Firefox 3.5RC3 x86
- A self-compiled 3.5.0 x64
- Firefox 3.5.1 running under Wine
- Firefox 3.5.1 running inside of WinXP in VMWare.
What I experience is that the page(s) load and the browser is
responsive, for about all of 10 seconds. Afterwards, the browser
locks--hard. After waiting for an average of 50 seconds, the browser
will respond normally again. The lock-ups also occur when using the
parameter "-safe-mode".
I cannot reproduce the lock-ups with the official Linux Firefox (x86)
3.0.12,
nor the Debian (x64) Iceweasel derivitive. I also cannot reproduce the
lock-ups when I'm not logged in. Disabling JavaScript does not help, nor
does creating a new Firefox/Iceweasel profile.
At the time of lock-up, strace shows (being a non-programmer, this means
nothing to me):
"madvise(0x7f79ad7f0000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7ed000, 8192, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7eb000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7e7000, 8192, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7e5000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7e3000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79ad7df000, 12288, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b0476000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b0473000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b0471000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b03f1000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b03ee000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b03eb000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
madvise(0x7f79b03e9000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0"
It seems like a regression in the new Firefox, and I wanted to confirm
it here before creating a bugzilla account to report it.
Ed / Crazee_Canuck
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:05:41 -0400
From: Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer@...>
Subject: Re: [mb-users] Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ?
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This sounds familiar to what I've heard for other sites (see
http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=no&forumId=1&comments_parentId=383802for
an example). Given the number of links on any page, esp a page like
the
Mozart listing where there's at least several hundred links, the link
prefetch may very well be the problem. Have you tried disabling it to see
if the same behaviour remains?
Brian
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Edward J. Shornock
<ed.shornock@...>wrote:
> Does anyone else have a problem with Firefox locking on artist pages
> that have a crap load of releases, such as the WA Mozart
> artist page
> <http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b972f589-fb0e-474e-b64a-803b0364fa75.html>,
> or even J.S. Bach
> <http://musicbrainz.org/artist/24f1766e-9635-4d58-a4d4-9413f9f98a4c.html>?
>
> I've been able to successfully reproduce this problem with
> - Debian's Iceweasel 3.5.x x64
> - Firefox 3.5RC3 x86
> - A self-compiled 3.5.0 x64
> - Firefox 3.5.1 running under Wine
> - Firefox 3.5.1 running inside of WinXP in VMWare.
>
> What I experience is that the page(s) load and the browser is
> responsive, for about all of 10 seconds. Afterwards, the browser
> locks--hard. After waiting for an average of 50 seconds, the browser
> will respond normally again. The lock-ups also occur when using the
> parameter "-safe-mode".
>
> I cannot reproduce the lock-ups with the official Linux Firefox (x86)
> 3.0.12,
> nor the Debian (x64) Iceweasel derivitive. I also cannot reproduce the
> lock-ups when I'm not logged in. Disabling JavaScript does not help, nor
> does creating a new Firefox/Iceweasel profile.
>
> At the time of lock-up, strace shows (being a non-programmer, this means
> nothing to me):
> "madvise(0x7f79ad7f0000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7ed000, 8192, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7eb000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7e7000, 8192, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7e5000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7e3000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79ad7df000, 12288, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b0476000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b0473000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b0471000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b03f1000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b03ee000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b03eb000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
> madvise(0x7f79b03e9000, 4096, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0"
>
> It seems like a regression in the new Firefox, and I wanted to confirm
> it here before creating a bugzilla account to report it.
>
>
> Ed / Crazee_Canuck
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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:30:52 +0200
From: Age Bosma <agebosma@...>
Subject: Re: [mb-users] Site lock-ups with Firefox 3.5.x ?
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
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Edward J. Shornock wrote:
>
> It seems like a regression in the new Firefox, and I wanted to confirm
> it here before creating a bugzilla account to report it.
>
Confirmed on Windows XP SP3 (native) with Firefox 3.5.1
Yours,
Age
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