Re: SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes

> That’s the thing I have been using it for 2 months.
>
> And the fact that I CAN NOT RMB a file and compare it against the SVN is a
> HUGE productivity limitation, I am forced to go to the windows menu to do the
> job or use the keyboard shortcut. Secondly as I stated it is NOT clear enough
> when it is checking against local or remote.
>
> Making those changes will make the product better and more productive.
>
> Every SVN tool I have used as a clear understanding with the menu that it is
> either Team->Compare (which means it is going to check the SVN) or compare
> to->local (Which means it will compare the local history for changes.
>
> To have an RMB menu that has show changes and NOTHING else, one is
> automatically going to ASSUME that it is going to compare remotely. When it
> doesn’t, because there is no other option to do a remote compare in the RMB
> context menu.
>
> If you are happy with these then that’s good for you, but as a new user who
> has been using it for 2 months I have pointed out some very useful short
> comings and a learning curve that doesn’t need to be there if some small
> changes are made.
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> From: smartsvn@... [mailto:smartsvn@...] On Behalf Of
> Prakash Nadar
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 June 2009 10:04 AM
> To: smartsvn@...
> Subject: Re: [smartsvn] SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes
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> I like the idea that I can quickly see the local change and not the server
> changes.
>
> Not all products are same, and they don't have to be. After using perforce for
> more than 4 years, i found the whole SVN thing weird, i.e. pristine copy,
> local copy. Now I am used to smartsvn. very good in its class.
>
> Use it for a month or so, every thing will fall in its place.
> -prakash
>
> ________________________________
> From: Andrew Scott <ascott@...<mailto:ascott%40cogstate.com>>
> To: "smartsvn@...<mailto:smartsvn%40yahoogroups.com>"
> <smartsvn@...<mailto:smartsvn%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:56:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [smartsvn] SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes
>
> Are you serious?
>
> Anyone who is worth their weight in gold, would be using the RMB option and
> that should be compare changes should default to the revision of SVN and not
> the local. If I need or want to check local the compare to local would be
> better.
>
> I think the whole menu system and the way it is layed out is totally wrong.
>
> There needs to be a clearer indication that the compare is going to be done
> against SVN, and / or to the local.
>
> Show changes to me means that I wish to work against the latest in the Head of
> the SVN, which you don’t do. If you take an Eclipse plugin like Subversive for
> instance. It has a team menu with sub menus that we know right away that it
> does all its work against the SVN, then there is a local menu or a compare to
> menu that then says I want to compare to local, SVN revision etc.
>
> That way is so much easier to understand than the current system you have in
> place. Anyone like myself who has picked this up is just getting confused on
> what is for what.
>
> Show Changes for an SVN utility should not default to local compare, and that
> is wrong when smartSVN does this. If I want and/or need to then there should
> be an option to compare to local. And or a particular revision.
>
> I think you guys would benefit a great deal by checking these plugins out for
> Eclipse, because they are structured for productivity. smartSVN so far is not
> geared for productivity and a developer as to take to long to work out what
> menu is for local and remote. It might be second nature to a lot of seasoned
> users to smartSVN, but not when you pick it up for the first time. I spend far
> to long trying to work out what menu is for what, when a simple compare
> to->revision or compare to-> local would be easier and quicker to see what it
> does.
>
> Also I touched on the fact that it would also be good if you had an Eclipse
> plugin, so that we did not have to leave Eclipse when that IDE is geared to
> team development.
>
> From: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com [mailto:smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf
> Of syntevo Support
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 5:34 PM
> To: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com
> Subject: Re: [smartsvn] SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes
>
> Hello Andy,
>
> > Send to where?
>
> Thanks, image received. It looks like you have the focus in the directory tree
> (it's the header gradient which denotes the currently active view). Hence
> file-related actions are disabled. When putting the focus in the file table,
> it will work.
>
> > I would also like to add that the keyboard shortcut still works, and that
>
> I couldn't reproduce this: The shortcut only works if the focus is in the file
> table.
>
> > you have also ignored the fact that RMB context menu has no option to
> > compare against the subversion system.
>
> You can configure the context menu in the Preferences - User Interface -
> Context Menus.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Marc Strapetz
> ____________ _
> syntevo GmbH
> www.syntevo. com
>
> Andrew Scott <ascott@cogstate. com<mailto:ascott% 40cogstate. com>> wrote:
>
> > Send to where?
> >
> > I would also like to add that the keyboard shortcut still works, and that you
> > have also ignored the fact that RMB context menu has no option to compare
> > against the subversion system.
> >
> > I come from other tools where the compare is ALWAYS against the header, hence
> > I do show compare in this case and it goes and compares against the header. If
> > I wish to compare against a particular revision then there is an option call
> > compare revision.
> >
> > I have to say when coming from such tools as Subversive and Subclipse smartSVN
> > is not really smart at all.
> >
> > I personally do not need to compare against my local copy changes as my IDE
> > does that for me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com> [mailto:smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com>] On Behalf Of
> > syntevo Support
> > Sent: Monday, 22 June 2009 9:41 PM
> > To: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > Subject: Re: [smartsvn] SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I should also point out that when I actually use the menus in the main
> > > window the compare revision option is always greyed out.
> >
> > It should be enabled, when a versioned file is selected. If not, please send
> > directly to us a screenshot showing the selected file.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Marc Strapetz
> > ____________ _
> > syntevo GmbH
> > www.syntevo. com
> >
> > Andrew Scott <ascott@cogstate. com<mailto:ascott% 40cogstate. com><mailto: ascott%40cogstat e.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I should also point out that when I actually use the menus in the main window
> > > the compare revision option is always greyed out.
> > >
> > > Show changes in my eyes means I want to see the changes to local compared to
> > > SVN, I have eclipse that has the option of comparing locally and it does a far
> > > better job at it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com><mailto: smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com> [mailto:smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com><mailto: smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com>] On Behalf Of
> > > syntevo Support
> > > Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 9:02 PM
> > > To: smartsvn@yahoogroup s.com<mailto:smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com><mailto: smartsvn% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > Subject: Re: [smartsvn] SmartSVN 6.0.2 and Show Changes
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I saw a thread the other day that says that the remote side shows changes
> > > > and yet they do a compare and there are no changes.
> > >
> > > What kind of Compare are you doing? Show changes only works locally, so not
> > > seeing remote changes is expected behavior (though we have an RFE here to
> > > automatically perform remote compare, if no local changes are present). Does
> > > Compare with Revision also not work for you?
> > >
> > > > This is causing some serious code loss in our company and this needs to be
> > > > fixed ASAP.
> > >
> > > What causes code loss?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Marc Strapetz
> > > ____________ _
> > > syntevo GmbH
> > > www.syntevo. com
> > >
> > > Andrew Scott <ascott@cogstate. com<mailto:ascott% 40cogstate. com><mailto: ascott%40cogstat e.com><mailto: ascott%40cogstat e.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I saw a thread the other day that says that the remote side shows changes and
> > > > yet they do a compare and there are no changes.
> > > >
> > > > This seems to be a serious issue with smartSVn 6.0.2, I have seen the same
> > > > thing modified shows on both sides and yet when I do a show changes they are
> > > > identical. And yet if I view the actual revision in the transaction window and
> > > > show changes I see the full changes to the files.
> > > >
> > > > This is causing some serious code loss in our company and this needs to be
> > > > fixed ASAP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Andrew Scott
> > > > Software Engineer
> > > >
> > > > CogState Ltd.
> > > > Lv 7, 21 Victoria Street
> > > > Melbourne
> > > > VIC 3000 Australia
> > > > Ph: +61 (0) 3 9664 1300
> > > > Fax: +61 (0) 3 9664 1301
> > > > Web: www.cogstate. com<http://www.cogstate.com/>
> > > >
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