It's a fair criticism — as a board, we've not done a great job of communicating to the broader community using our website. These mailing lists are probably where most of the action is taking place.
There are certainly lots of conversations happening about OpenID these days but — ironically — they're happening in a distributed way that doesn't necessarily lend themselves to consolidation. There's still a role for the OpenID website — but individual sites for international communities? They might only be useful or relevant if there are enough individually motivated locals to maintain the sites and use them to coordinate local activities.
As a board member, I'd love to see more people take up the cause of OpenID and for the foundation to support them — but it's currently it's no one's "job". As with most volunteer communities — it takes individual effort over time to make a difference.
We have a board meeting this afternoon and it's something that I'll bring up. I certainly can't promise anything, but I do think that people should use this and the general@ list to coordinate and organize local and international community work.
Chris
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Jean-Noël Colin
<jn.colin@...> wrote:
Hi
Just to clarify, I'm not saying I'm feeling left out... I'm sure people at the board are very accommodating. I'm just feeling I'm missing some glue within the community... Being informed of what's going on, for instance... Getting feedback from the OpenId summit I just found out took place recently... I don't see a trace of it on the
openid.net website...
And also, why create an
openideurope.eu, if it doesn't show any sign of activity: I think it's giving a wrong signal to the public
Best regards
Jean-Noël
On 05 Nov 2009, at 15:57, Santosh Rajan wrote:
Hi Joen, Andy,
I must agree with Andy. I don't know why you should feel left out Joen. I think everyone should participate in this OpenId community (and make it one global community).
I can assure you from my experience, (even though i mostly disagree with the views around here), the folks around here are accomodating of people from anywhere, even an obnoxious guy like me :-)
So everyone should feel free to participate here.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Andy Powell
<andy.powell@...> wrote:
Here’s my gut feeling on this...
I think there is a global OpenID community and on that basis the
board needs global representation on it if possible. I’m not convinced
that trying to build sub-communities on a geographical basis makes much sense
other than:
1)
to organise local events and so on, and
2)
to lobby national governments to adopt OpenID (in the way that the
OpenID Foundation and Information Card Foundation have been doing in the US).
On that basis, I think that trying to build a European community is
at the wrong level – it’s too broad for both the events and the
lobbying. Building communities at a lower level might work...
However, I’m on the advisory board for the Dublin Core
Metadata Initiative which has tried to encourage national affiliates (primarily
as a funding model) with associated national communities and in my experience
it is very hard to get those national communities working properly –
things either happen globally, or they don’t happen at all.
Just my 2c (Euros!).
Hope this helps,
Andy
Andy Powell
Research Programme Director
Eduserv
twitter.com/andypowe11
Dear members of the OpenId board,
I've been nominated in June 2009 as belgian OpenId
representative, and I would like to share a few comments, at least about OpenId
Europe
- the OpenId Europe website was last updated in
June, to announce my 'nomination'; previous update was in December 2008.
Does it really make sense to maintain that foundation? I have the feeling
that it gives a bad image of OpenId, at least in Europe, which looks like
a not very lively community
- I understand that being OpenId representative
means that I should have a role towards my local community, and I already
had some contacts for that; but shouldn't we also be some kind of relay
between the foundation and the local communities? Shouldn't there be an
top-down information flow? I'm of course following what's happening on the
specs mailing list, but I must admit I don't feel what it's like to be
part of the OpenId community... I renewed my membership to show my
support, but don't really feel part of any real community, which I think
is a bit sad
So I would propose two things: assess the real need for the
OpenId Europe community, and put in place some communication flows from the
board towards the local representatives, to give a sense of liveliness to this
community.
Faculty of Computer Science Tel:
+32 (0)81 725274
Rue Grandgagnage 21 Skype:
jn.colin
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
board@...
http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board
--
http://hi.im/santosh
board mailing list
board@...
http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
board@...
http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board
--
Chris Messina
Open Web Advocate
Personal:
http://factoryjoe.comFollow me on Twitter:
http://twitter.com/chrismessina
Citizen Agency:
http://citizenagency.comDiso Project:
http://diso-project.orgOpenID Foundation:
http://openid.net
This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private
_______________________________________________
board mailing list
board@...
http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board
