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Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

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He says SConstruct has a bug, which he has patched. I think he's
probably right, and I will patch SConstruct accordingly.

The bug makes the installation not know the right name (soname) for
the csnd extension module shared library.

Regards,
Mike

On 7/6/09, Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> wrote:

> Victor and Mike G. (especially) -
>
> You're familiar with my problems getting Csound5.10 working on SoaS.
>
> Aleksey, one of the Sugar developers, sent me the "solution" (below) to this
> problem (a Scons issue apparently).
>
> I don't know what to do with it, and look to you for either implementation
> or explanation.
>
> I'm really interested to get 5.10 working with Sugar.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aleksey Lim" <alsroot@...>
> To: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin@...>
> Cc: <pbrobinson@...>; <csound@...>;
> <sugar-devel@...>
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound
>
>
>> looks like its a SConstruct issue
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2817271&group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>
>> this patch fixed "import csnd" in my case
>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/csound-2817271-soname.patch
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 05:49:23PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote:
>>> As mentioned by a member of the sugar-devel list, it seems that a csound
>>> (5.10) install (yum install csound), does not install several crucial
>>> site-specific and library packages (csnd, _csnd, libcsnd and perhaps
>>> libcsound).
>>>
>>> Having to erase olpcsound before installing csound deletes these files
>>> and they don't get restored/reinstalled.
>>>
>>> So, to the procedures described below, before erasing olpcsound, I saved
>>> the above-listed files (there were 5 or 6), and once csound was
>>> installed, added them back where they came from.
>>>
>>> This crude procedure didn't work, and the following error log is quite
>>> like the one I started with:
>>>
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning:
>>> the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
>>>
>>> import sha
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>
>>> File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>
>>> main.main()
>>>
>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line 105,
>>>
>>> in main
>>>
>>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>>
>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line 41,
>>> in <module>
>>>
>>> import csndsugui
>>>
>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line 36,
>>>
>>> in <module>
>>>
>>> import csnd
>>>
>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in <module>
>>>
>>> import _csnd
>>>
>>> ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol:
>>> csoundGetInputBuffer
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to get this all working. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Art Hunkins
>>>   To: pbrobinson@...
>>>   Cc: csound@... ; sugar-devel@...
>>>   Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:57 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>   I've just noted that the /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages folder does
>>> not include csnd.py. That folder also contains many fewer files that the
>>> corresponding one in python2.5.
>>>
>>>   As a matter of fact, python2.5 seems about a third the size of 2.6. Is
>>> all this correct?
>>>
>>>   Art Hunkins
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     From: Art Hunkins
>>>     To: pbrobinson@...
>>>     Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:13 PM
>>>     Subject: Fw: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hello, Peter,
>>>
>>>     Do you know what may be happening here? (Please see error log below.)
>>>
>>>     I've no idea why the module referenced (csd.py) is not found. Please
>>> also compare the log at the very bottom of this mail; this latter log was
>>>
>>> generated when running Csound*5.08*, also with python2.6.
>>>
>>>     Thanks for any insights.
>>>
>>>     Art Hunkins
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     From: Art Hunkins
>>>     To: Developer discussions
>>>     Cc: csound@...
>>>     Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>     Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>     Here's the *next* chapter in the saga. Please note that this is not
>>> the *Windows* installation saga; it's the *Linux/Sugar* installation
>>> saga.
>>>
>>>     In our last episode, we noted that Csound5.08 was (apparently?)
>>> incompatible with python2.6. At least this seemed a plausible explanation
>>>
>>> from the error log we saw.
>>>
>>>     So, now Csound5.10 is available on Fedora(11) for download to SoaS.
>>>
>>>     First, I try update csound; "can't find any csound".
>>>     Second, install csound; it tries, but then says, "can't because it
>>> interferes with olpcsound" (OK, different name!)
>>>     Third, erase olpcsound; good
>>>     Fourth, install csound; good
>>>
>>>     Then I run my Activity; it now crashes with the similar, but not
>>> exact, error log below.
>>>
>>>     I thought perhaps I'd better start from scratch and did (reformat USB
>>>
>>> drive, etc). Thought probably the new SoaS iso incorporated Csound5.10.
>>> But no, I needed to essentially repeat the above steps, and ended with
>>> the same crash.
>>>
>>>     The log: (any new ideas please?)
>>>
>>>     /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:
>>> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
>>> instead
>>>
>>>     import sha
>>>
>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>
>>>     File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>
>>>     main.main()
>>>
>>>     File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line
>>> 105, in main
>>>
>>>     module = __import__(module_name)
>>>
>>>     File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line
>>> 41, in <module>
>>>
>>>     import csndsugui
>>>
>>>     File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line
>>>
>>> 36, in <module>
>>>
>>>     import csnd
>>>
>>>     ImportError: No module named csnd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Art Hunkins
>>>
>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>       From: victor
>>>       To: Art Hunkins ; Developer discussions
>>>       Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
>>>       Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>       Because the 5.10 rpm has a python2.6 dependency. But that might
>>>       be the case for 5.08 too (I am not sure).
>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>         From: Art Hunkins
>>>         To: Developer discussions
>>>         Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:22 AM
>>>         Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>         I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5,
>>> whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6
>>>
>>>         Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why
>>> 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should?
>>>
>>>         Art Hunkins
>>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>>           From: Victor.Lazzarini@...
>>>           To: Developer discussions
>>>           Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM
>>>           Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>
>>>
>>>           The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python
>>>           version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91
>>>           rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another
>>>           build that somehow uses 2.6).
>>>
>>>           What the message says is that the library module Python
>>>           tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The
>>>           reason for this I don't know.
>>>
>>>           Victor
>>>
>>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>>           From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...>
>>>           Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm
>>>           Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>           To: csound-devel@...
>>>
>>>           > Victor, Brian and Mike G. -
>>>           >
>>>           > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it
>>>           > suggests about
>>>           > the crash of my OurMusic activity.
>>>           >
>>>           > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And
>>> as
>>>           > you can see
>>>           > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log.
>>>           >
>>>           > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or
>>>           > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1?
>>>           >
>>>           > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem
>>>           > might well be
>>>           > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available
>>>           > through yum
>>>           > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What
>>> do
>>>           > you imagine?
>>>           >
>>>           > The log:
>>>           >
>>>           > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:
>>>           > DeprecationWarning: the
>>>           > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
>>>           >
>>>           > import sha
>>>           >
>>>           > Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>           >
>>>           > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>           >
>>>           > main.main()
>>>           >
>>>           > File
>>> "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py",
>>>           > line 105, in
>>>           > main
>>>           >
>>>           > module = __import__(module_name)
>>>           >
>>>           > File
>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py",
>>>           > line 41, in
>>>           > <module>
>>>           >
>>>           > import csndsugui
>>>           >
>>>           > File
>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py",
>>>           > line 36, in
>>>           > <module>
>>>           >
>>>           > import csnd
>>>           >
>>>           > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in
>>>           > <module>
>>>           > import _csnd
>>>           >
>>>           > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol:
>>>           > csoundGetInputBuffer
>>>           >
>>>           >
>>>           > Thanks -
>>>           >
>>>           > Art Hunkins
>>>           >
>>>           >
>>>           >
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>           National University of Ireland, Maynooth
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