Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound

> Mike,
>
> Sorry, I'm technically way over my head here. I'm referring to the thread
> below.
>
> Sugar on a Stick includes Csound5.10 and Python2.6. The incompatibilities,
> apparently relating to Scons, are cited below. I'm not building anything; I
> just need the SoaS download or update to handle my Python script with
> Csound5.10 correctly.
>
> 5.10 doesn't work with a Python2.6 script currently. (I need 5.10 to be able
> to use multiple MIDI controllers.)
>
> I don't know how to explain any better, and also don't know where (else) to
> turn. Should I be looking elsewhere? (I feel really stuck currently.)
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> Mike G. wrote:
> Art - the Python version is controllable in Sconstruct. It works with
> 2.3, 2.4, 2.5, and 2.6 at present. Which version of Python do you need
> Csound to work with, and how do you obtain or build Csound?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gogins" <michael.gogins@...>
> To: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin@...>; "Developer discussions"
> <csound-devel@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound
>
>
>> He says SConstruct has a bug, which he has patched. I think he's
>> probably right, and I will patch SConstruct accordingly.
>>
>> The bug makes the installation not know the right name (soname) for
>> the csnd extension module shared library.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike
>>
>> On 7/6/09, Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> wrote:
>>> Victor and Mike G. (especially) -
>>>
>>> You're familiar with my problems getting Csound5.10 working on SoaS.
>>>
>>> Aleksey, one of the Sugar developers, sent me the "solution" (below) to
>>> this
>>> problem (a Scons issue apparently).
>>>
>>> I don't know what to do with it, and look to you for either
>>> implementation
>>> or explanation.
>>>
>>> I'm really interested to get 5.10 working with Sugar.
>>>
>>> Art Hunkins
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Aleksey Lim" <alsroot@...>
>>> To: "Art Hunkins" <abhunkin@...>
>>> Cc: <pbrobinson@...>; <csound@...>;
>>> <sugar-devel@...>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound/Csound
>>>
>>>
>>>> looks like its a SConstruct issue
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2817271&group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>>
>>>> this patch fixed "import csnd" in my case
>>>> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/jhconvert/repos/mainline/blobs/master/patches/csound-2817271-soname.patch
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 05:49:23PM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote:
>>>>> As mentioned by a member of the sugar-devel list, it seems that a
>>>>> csound
>>>>> (5.10) install (yum install csound), does not install several crucial
>>>>> site-specific and library packages (csnd, _csnd, libcsnd and perhaps
>>>>> libcsound).
>>>>>
>>>>> Having to erase olpcsound before installing csound deletes these files
>>>>> and they don't get restored/reinstalled.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, to the procedures described below, before erasing olpcsound, I
>>>>> saved
>>>>> the above-listed files (there were 5 or 6), and once csound was
>>>>> installed, added them back where they came from.
>>>>>
>>>>> This crude procedure didn't work, and the following error log is quite
>>>>> like the one I started with:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning:
>>>>> the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
>>>>>
>>>>> import sha
>>>>>
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> main.main()
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line
>>>>> 105,
>>>>>
>>>>> in main
>>>>>
>>>>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line
>>>>> 41,
>>>>> in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import csndsugui
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line
>>>>> 36,
>>>>>
>>>>> in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import csnd
>>>>>
>>>>> File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>> import _csnd
>>>>>
>>>>> ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol:
>>>>> csoundGetInputBuffer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to get this all working.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>   From: Art Hunkins
>>>>>   To: pbrobinson@...
>>>>>   Cc: csound@... ; sugar-devel@...
>>>>>   Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:57 PM
>>>>>   Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   I've just noted that the /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages folder does
>>>>> not include csnd.py. That folder also contains many fewer files that
>>>>> the
>>>>> corresponding one in python2.5.
>>>>>
>>>>>   As a matter of fact, python2.5 seems about a third the size of 2.6.
>>>>> Is
>>>>> all this correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>   Art Hunkins
>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>     From: Art Hunkins
>>>>>     To: pbrobinson@...
>>>>>     Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:13 PM
>>>>>     Subject: Fw: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hello, Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Do you know what may be happening here? (Please see error log
>>>>> below.)
>>>>>
>>>>>     I've no idea why the module referenced (csd.py) is not found.
>>>>> Please
>>>>> also compare the log at the very bottom of this mail; this latter log
>>>>> was
>>>>>
>>>>> generated when running Csound*5.08*, also with python2.6.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks for any insights.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>     From: Art Hunkins
>>>>>     To: Developer discussions
>>>>>     Cc: csound@...
>>>>>     Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 5:36 PM
>>>>>     Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Here's the *next* chapter in the saga. Please note that this is not
>>>>> the *Windows* installation saga; it's the *Linux/Sugar* installation
>>>>> saga.
>>>>>
>>>>>     In our last episode, we noted that Csound5.08 was (apparently?)
>>>>> incompatible with python2.6. At least this seemed a plausible
>>>>> explanation
>>>>>
>>>>> from the error log we saw.
>>>>>
>>>>>     So, now Csound5.10 is available on Fedora(11) for download to SoaS.
>>>>>
>>>>>     First, I try update csound; "can't find any csound".
>>>>>     Second, install csound; it tries, but then says, "can't because it
>>>>> interferes with olpcsound" (OK, different name!)
>>>>>     Third, erase olpcsound; good
>>>>>     Fourth, install csound; good
>>>>>
>>>>>     Then I run my Activity; it now crashes with the similar, but not
>>>>> exact, error log below.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I thought perhaps I'd better start from scratch and did (reformat
>>>>> USB
>>>>>
>>>>> drive, etc). Thought probably the new SoaS iso incorporated Csound5.10.
>>>>> But no, I needed to essentially repeat the above steps, and ended with
>>>>> the same crash.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The log: (any new ideas please?)
>>>>>
>>>>>     /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:
>>>>> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib
>>>>> module
>>>>> instead
>>>>>
>>>>>     import sha
>>>>>
>>>>>     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>
>>>>>     File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>>     main.main()
>>>>>
>>>>>     File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py",
>>>>> line
>>>>> 105, in main
>>>>>
>>>>>     module = __import__(module_name)
>>>>>
>>>>>     File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py",
>>>>> line
>>>>> 41, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>>     import csndsugui
>>>>>
>>>>>     File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py",
>>>>> line
>>>>>
>>>>> 36, in <module>
>>>>>
>>>>>     import csnd
>>>>>
>>>>>     ImportError: No module named csnd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Art Hunkins
>>>>>
>>>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>       From: victor
>>>>>       To: Art Hunkins ; Developer discussions
>>>>>       Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM
>>>>>       Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       Because the 5.10 rpm has a python2.6 dependency. But that might
>>>>>       be the case for 5.08 too (I am not sure).
>>>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>         From: Art Hunkins
>>>>>         To: Developer discussions
>>>>>         Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:22 AM
>>>>>         Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5,
>>>>> whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6
>>>>>
>>>>>         Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why
>>>>> 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should?
>>>>>
>>>>>         Art Hunkins
>>>>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>           From: Victor.Lazzarini@...
>>>>>           To: Developer discussions
>>>>>           Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM
>>>>>           Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python
>>>>>           version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91
>>>>>           rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another
>>>>>           build that somehow uses 2.6).
>>>>>
>>>>>           What the message says is that the library module Python
>>>>>           tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The
>>>>>           reason for this I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>           Victor
>>>>>
>>>>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>           From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...>
>>>>>           Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm
>>>>>           Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound
>>>>>           To: csound-devel@...
>>>>>
>>>>>           > Victor, Brian and Mike G. -
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it
>>>>>           > suggests about
>>>>>           > the crash of my OurMusic activity.
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And
>>>>> as
>>>>>           > you can see
>>>>>           > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log.
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or
>>>>>           > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1?
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem
>>>>>           > might well be
>>>>>           > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available
>>>>>           > through yum
>>>>>           > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What
>>>>> do
>>>>>           > you imagine?
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > The log:
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25:
>>>>>           > DeprecationWarning: the
>>>>>           > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > import sha
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module>
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > main.main()
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > File
>>>>> "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py",
>>>>>           > line 105, in
>>>>>           > main
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > module = __import__(module_name)
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > File
>>>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py",
>>>>>           > line 41, in
>>>>>           > <module>
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > import csndsugui
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > File
>>>>> "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py",
>>>>>           > line 36, in
>>>>>           > <module>
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > import csnd
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in
>>>>>           > <module>
>>>>>           > import _csnd
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol:
>>>>>           > csoundGetInputBuffer
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > Thanks -
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           > Art Hunkins
>>>>>           >
>>>>>           >
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