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On 7 Sep 2006, at 20:51, Michael Baehr wrote:

> That must feel like a low blow, but don't get discouraged!
>
> But definitely Groovy needs a lobby in the US! Groovy evangelist  
> anyone?


I don't feel it's a low blow at all.

JRuby is a two man operation which has no control over the language  
spec. Sun's sponsorship of JRuby gives Sun no control over the  
language at all.

The effect is just to, hopefully, help he progress of JRuby. This is  
not a zero sum game. To a large extent a boost to one JVM scripting  
language is a boost to all.

Groovy is different:

We have complete control over the language spec - see the big threads  
today on groovy-dev for evidence of that:)

We are have a lager community of committers, some of whom really do  
not want to work for Sun Microsystems (no disrespect intended to Sun)

We are a lot further down the path of producing a first rate  
implementation (I think we have done amazingly well in the time we  
have been working and we have real world mission critical  
applications written in Groovy)

We have an active and very impressive set of projects which rely on  
Groovy - step forward the Grails crew!

So, in the sprit that the Groovy project has always had, of  
respecting and encouraging "competitors" I think it's very welome  
news that Sun is spending money on Dynamic languages for the JVM:)



John Wilson
The Wilson Partnership
web http://www.wilson.co.uk
blog http://eek.ook.org



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