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Re: TextMate 2
by Jon Ippolito-3
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Although only a TextMate newbie, I would be happy to pay for an
upgrade to version 2. That said, I can imagine a purchase page that allowed upgraders to choose from a number of possible "donation" amounts--say, via the sort of pull-down menu you get when paying for music at http:// Magnatune.com. You could then bury the option to Upgrade for Free somewhere deep on the page or on another page, so that it's an option for the needy. I would also love to contribute a few beers to bundle developers-- perhaps via a similar system or a "checkbox" list. Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this vibrant community! jon /RNN (http://responsenotnecessary.com) ______________________________ Still Water--what networks need to thrive. http://newmedia.umaine.edu/stillwater/ _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by enas
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I would be very happy to pay for the upgrade (who wouldn't? it seems
to be a consensual issue, at least amongst those who bother saying it in the list :). Concerning the general remarks raised, as the one concerning the bundle developers remuneration, I guess the "natural" solution would be that TextMate gets eventually open-sourced (with the possibility to make donations to the bundle developers as well as to the core project's developers). I understood that Allan has a very precise vision of where he wants to get to, so it wouldn't seem strange that once this state is achieved (or if Allan gives up on reaching that state, whichever comes first :), he decides to open-source it. Is there any consideration on that matter? As everyone agrees, one of the great advantages of TextMate is its free project-like community (which as far as I know, is quite unique for a non open-source piece of software, which shows that not everything is black or white as some people often claim it - TextMate indeed shows a smart combination of the advantages of different models). enas On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:59, Jon Ippolito wrote: > Although only a TextMate newbie, I would be happy to pay for an > upgrade to version 2. > > That said, I can imagine a purchase page that allowed upgraders to > choose from a number of possible "donation" amounts--say, via the sort > of pull-down menu you get when paying for music at http:// > Magnatune.com. You could then bury the option to Upgrade for Free > somewhere deep on the page or on another page, so that it's an option > for the needy. > > I would also love to contribute a few beers to bundle developers-- > perhaps via a similar system or a "checkbox" list. > > Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this vibrant community! > > jon > /RNN (http://responsenotnecessary.com) > ______________________________ > Still Water--what networks need to thrive. > http://newmedia.umaine.edu/stillwater/ > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate@... > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Allan Odgaard-4
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On 17 Jun 2009, at 20:15, enas wrote:
> [...] I guess the "natural" solution would be that TextMate gets > eventually open-sourced (with the possibility to make donations to > the bundle developers as well as to the core project's developers). > I understood that Allan has a very precise vision of where he wants > to get to, so it wouldn't seem strange that once this state is > achieved (or if Allan gives up on reaching that state, whichever > comes first :), he decides to open-source it. Is there any > consideration on that matter? Yeah, F/OSS has long been on my taunt > > As everyone agrees, one of the great advantages of TextMate is its > free project-like community (which as far as I know, is quite unique > for a non open-source piece of software, which shows that not > everything is black or white as some people often claim it - TextMate > indeed shows a smart combination of the advantages of different > models). > > enas > > On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:59, Jon Ippolito wrote: > >> Although only a TextMate newbie, I would be happy to pay for an >> upgrade to version 2. >> >> That said, I can imagine a purchase page that allowed upgraders to >> choose from a number of possible "donation" amounts--say, via the >> sort >> of pull-down menu you get when paying for music at http:// >> Magnatune.com. You could then bury the option to Upgrade for Free >> somewhere deep on the page or on another page, so that it's an option >> for the needy. >> >> I would also love to contribute a few beers to bundle developers-- >> perhaps via a similar system or a "checkbox" list. >> >> Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this vibrant community! >> >> jon >> /RNN (http://responsenotnecessary.com) >> ______________________________ >> Still Water--what networks need to thrive. >> http://newmedia.umaine.edu/stillwater/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate@... >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate@... > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Allan Odgaard-4
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On 24 Jun 2009, at 12:00, Allan Odgaard wrote:
> On 17 Jun 2009, at 20:15, enas wrote: > >> [...] I guess the "natural" solution would be that TextMate gets >> eventually open-sourced (with the possibility to make donations to >> the bundle developers as well as to the core project's developers). >> I understood that Allan has a very precise vision of where he wants >> to get to, so it wouldn't seem strange that once this state is >> achieved (or if Allan gives up on reaching that state, whichever >> comes first :), he decides to open-source it. Is there any >> consideration on that matter? > > Yeah, F/OSS has long been on my taunt Ups… hit Send _far_ too early… Yes, F/OSS has long been on my mind as a potential way out of this, though I have since hired one full time developer and two others part time (support/bundles and technical writer), so in addition to my own living expenses, I have to consider them as well. But I am sort of optimistic about finding a way this can work, but first I need to finish 2.0 before any of this is relevant. As for pay/free upgrade; for now I am doing ok financially — though I need no convincing that the “free upgrade” statement was stupid as I should also consider the future, but I think there are options like doing a much less ambitious 3.0 which is then for pay, or doing a paid 2.0 beta program, etc. and as long as I don’t end on the street, I am happy :) And while I disagree that the free upgrade has ever been even remotely close to the selling point of 1.x (go read our license policy, we are extremely pessimistic about even releasing a 2.0), I would not go back on what is effectively a promise which involve money (the promises that involve features, I am less hesitatnt about breaking ;) ). _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Thomas Aylott
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sign me up. where do I put my creditcard #?
On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > paid 2.0 beta program _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Eric O'Connell
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Seconded :)
Eric O'Connell Lead Developer - eric@... www.bodytalksystem.com On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Thomas Aylott wrote: > sign me up. where do I put my creditcard #? > > On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > >> paid 2.0 beta program > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate@... > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Quine
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yea I'd pay for a textmate 2 beta for sure. it'd be like paying for a
VIP table at the classiest club in town :D On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Eric O'Connell <eric@...> wrote: > > Seconded :) > > Eric O'Connell > Lead Developer > - > eric@... > www.bodytalksystem.com > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Thomas Aylott wrote: > > > sign me up. where do I put my creditcard #? > > > > On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: > > > >> paid 2.0 beta program > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > textmate mailing list > > textmate@... > > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate@... > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Timothy Rhodes
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Even if TM 2 beta crashed on launch, I would still paid.
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Nick wrote: > yea I'd pay for a textmate 2 beta for sure. it'd be like paying for a > VIP table at the classiest club in town :D > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Eric O'Connell <eric@... > > wrote: >> >> Seconded :) >> >> Eric O'Connell >> Lead Developer >> - >> eric@... >> www.bodytalksystem.com >> >> On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:07 PM, Thomas Aylott wrote: >> >>> sign me up. where do I put my creditcard #? >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:16 AM, Allan Odgaard wrote: >>> >>>> paid 2.0 beta program >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> textmate mailing list >>> textmate@... >>> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> textmate mailing list >> textmate@... >> http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate > > _______________________________________________ > textmate mailing list > textmate@... > http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Adam Strzelecki
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> Even if TM 2 beta crashed on launch, I would still paid.
Hahaha, that's good! But I am in too :) Cheers, -- Adam | nanoant.com P.S. /me Compiling e-text editor in VMWare Fusion... wonder if it is any close to TM ;P _______________________________________________ textmate mailing list textmate@... http://lists.macromates.com/listinfo/textmate |
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Re: TextMate 2
by Kevin LaCoste
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If you're committed to making 2.0 a free upgrade, sell registrations for it anyway. That way, those of us who like to support our software can still pay for the upgrade/serial number even if it's not required.
Kevin On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Adam Strzelecki <ono@...> wrote:
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