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Re: Themeing G3
by Brandon Sussman-2
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I rise to speak in favor of a (lighter weight) templating capability as part
of theming.
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 11:47:27 Bharat Mediratta and others wrote:
> Those that know PHP
I think I am a member of that group.
> will think a pure PHP themeing system is
> the best.
What does pure mean? No files that do not begin '<?php'? - I want some support
in the form of code that some good templating theorist wizard has developed.
tbs ( http://tinybutstrong.com/ ) templating is perfect for me - it is very
lightweight and does a great deal of the heavy lifting for me in my work and
it is small enough to suck in and modify if needed. Frankly, it is pretty
close to pure PHP for me. http://tinybutstrong.com/article_3rd_kind.html is
an interesting short read - BTW the 1st kind is pure PHP and the second is
exemplified by <drumroll duration="annoying" />SMARTY</drumroll>.
I am not expert but I find SMARTY inappropriately hard to deal with. I don't
see it's value. SMARTY code is so complex that I do not feel that anything
much has been abstracted, which is the reason to use templating. I also
suspect that the MVC model might have something to inform this conversation
and that a separate heavyweight templating engine courrupts this where a
small (or tiny :) ) template class might not.
With well done template files (generating appropriate semantics, etc.), a
templating class can make skinning (I use interchangeably with templating but
please do not start a war over that - I don't quibble) available to the 'less
technical' but I fear that themers need to know something of CSS, HTML, PHP
etc. We are talking about an interface layer here and you cannot interface
two things that you don't know.
Seriously - I think it is worthwhile looking at tbs or reinventing the tbs
wheel within G3 if that supports the notion of pure PHP better :)
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of theming.
On Tuesday 28 October 2008 11:47:27 Bharat Mediratta and others wrote:
> Those that know PHP
I think I am a member of that group.
> will think a pure PHP themeing system is
> the best.
What does pure mean? No files that do not begin '<?php'? - I want some support
in the form of code that some good templating theorist wizard has developed.
tbs ( http://tinybutstrong.com/ ) templating is perfect for me - it is very
lightweight and does a great deal of the heavy lifting for me in my work and
it is small enough to suck in and modify if needed. Frankly, it is pretty
close to pure PHP for me. http://tinybutstrong.com/article_3rd_kind.html is
an interesting short read - BTW the 1st kind is pure PHP and the second is
exemplified by <drumroll duration="annoying" />SMARTY</drumroll>.
I am not expert but I find SMARTY inappropriately hard to deal with. I don't
see it's value. SMARTY code is so complex that I do not feel that anything
much has been abstracted, which is the reason to use templating. I also
suspect that the MVC model might have something to inform this conversation
and that a separate heavyweight templating engine courrupts this where a
small (or tiny :) ) template class might not.
With well done template files (generating appropriate semantics, etc.), a
templating class can make skinning (I use interchangeably with templating but
please do not start a war over that - I don't quibble) available to the 'less
technical' but I fear that themers need to know something of CSS, HTML, PHP
etc. We are talking about an interface layer here and you cannot interface
two things that you don't know.
Seriously - I think it is worthwhile looking at tbs or reinventing the tbs
wheel within G3 if that supports the notion of pure PHP better :)
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