Re: Themeing G3

Googling for "kohana tbs template integration" or "kohana smarty template integration" will give you lots of hits that can help you integrate it into your installation or create a -contrib module that others can use.

I'm in full agreement with decision to use native php templates as I also felt that it raised the bar for people that want to make minor changes to templates.

Tim

----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Sussman <Brandon@...>
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 10:30 am
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Themeing G3
To: gallery-devel@...

> I rise to speak in favor of a (lighter weight) templating
> capability as part
> of theming.
>
> On Tuesday 28 October 2008 11:47:27 Bharat Mediratta and others wrote:
> > Those that know PHP
> I think I am a member of that group.
> > will think a pure PHP themeing system is
> > the best.
> What does pure mean? No files that do not begin '<?php'? - I
> want some support
> in the form of code that some good templating theorist wizard
> has developed. 
>
> tbs ( http://tinybutstrong.com/ ) templating is perfect for me -
> it is very
> lightweight and does a great deal of the heavy lifting for me in
> my work and
> it is small enough to suck in and modify if needed. 
> Frankly, it is pretty
> close to pure PHP for me. 
> http://tinybutstrong.com/article_3rd_kind.html is
> an interesting short read - BTW the 1st kind is pure PHP and the
> second is
> exemplified by <drumroll duration="annoying"
> />SMARTY</drumroll>.
> I am not expert but I find SMARTY inappropriately hard to deal
> with.  I don't
> see it's value.  SMARTY code is so complex that I do not
> feel that anything
> much has been abstracted, which is the reason to use
> templating.  I also
> suspect that the MVC model might have something to inform this
> conversation
> and that a separate heavyweight templating engine courrupts this
> where a
> small (or tiny :) ) template class might not.
>
> With well done template files (generating appropriate semantics,
> etc.), a
> templating class can make skinning (I use interchangeably with
> templating but
> please do not start a war over that - I don't quibble) available
> to the 'less
> technical' but I fear that themers need to know something of
> CSS, HTML, PHP
> etc.  We are talking about an interface layer here and you
> cannot interface
> two things that you don't know.
>
> Seriously - I think it is worthwhile looking at tbs or
> reinventing the tbs
> wheel within G3 if that supports the notion of pure PHP better :)
>
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