Re: Tim Boudreau doesn't like getModel() -> getDefaultModel()

> What if Component was not generified, and had an 'Object getModel()' method
> instead of 'Object getDefaultModel()', and the components that do benefit
> from generics, simply override the method to return 'T' (then the component
> class would have a <T> type parameter)? The compiler accepts this just fine.
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> Tetsuo
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> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM, tetsuo <ronald.tetsuo@...> wrote:
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>> I've just read the explanation in a Tim's blog post comment. Oh, well,
>> generics definitely isn't easy to grasp...
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>> I myself have observed that my (wicket) code is so much readable without
>> most generics declarations. Even when using components that do have models
>> (Textfield, for example) I didn't gain anything for adding the angle
>> brackets, since the models in general use reflection (PropertyModel,
>> CompoundPropertyModel, etc.), and don't make any use of the build-time
>> validation at all.
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>> sigh...
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>> Tetsuo
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>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, tetsuo <ronald.tetsuo@...> wrote:
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>>> I understand the getModelObject() thing, but I not about the
>>> getDefaultModel(). Why is that?
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>>> I've found an e-mail (
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/wicket-dev/200806.mbox/%3C23eb48360806190903y27f3baeaua2db57e39249743d@...%3E)
>>> that states that it may be removed in 1.5.
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>>> Why rename getModel to getDefaultModel just to take it out later?
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>>> Not a critic, just trying to understand.
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>>> Tetsuo
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>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
>>> jeremy@...> wrote:
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>>>> A good overall read, but he also seemed to miss the reason we have
>>>> getModel**Object**.  He doesn't think that's necessary, but misses
>>>> that there is also getModel (without object) and the word does clarify
>>>> the difference.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, a good read on overall API design, though.  I'd recommend it
>>>> to others with the caveat that I also disagree with his last part
>>>> about the rename.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Thomerson
>>>> http://www.wickettraining.com
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>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Martijn
>>>> Dashorst<martijn.dashorst@...> wrote:
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>>>> http://weblogs.java.net/blog/timboudreau/archive/2009/07/api_design_vs_a_1.html
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>>>> > I guess he doesn't get why we did the rename. This reminds me that we
>>>> > *really* should improve our release docs before we finalize 1.4!!!
>>>> >
>>>> > Martijn
>>>> >
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