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Re: Using gmail and not seeing own messages
by Brian Landau
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This is really only an issue for Gmail users who access it via
Mail.app or some other email desktop client. If you're using the Gmail
supplied web interface then everything is done in "conversations", and
then it makes sense for them to automatically not show you your
response.
I highly recommend not using desktop email clients with Gmail. Instead
you might want to try Mailplane ( http://mailplaneapp.com/ ) which
offers most (not all) of the features you would want out of a desktop
email client (like drag and drop, and notifications) but uses the
Gmail web interface.
- Brian
On 8/8/07, Charilaos Skiadas <cskiadas@...> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
> >
> >> Hopefully someone can help me with the following simple problem.
> >>
> >> I recently moved to a gmail account for my mailing list
> >> subscriptions. I have enabled POP access in gmail, and set
> >> Mail.app to read those messages. Everything works just fine,
> >> except for the fact that I never get to see my own messages to the
> >> list, even though I have set my list preferences so as to receive
> >> them. Anyone encountered this before?
> >
> > That's the normal behaviour of GMail (it's a feature, not a bug).
>
> I can only consider it a feature in the M$ meaning of the word. This
> is definitely a bug in my eyes.
> http://playbacktime.com/2007/01/22/gmail-pop-mailing-lists-broken/
>
> > It detects your messages from mailing-lists and doesn't send them
> > too you. You can see them in the thread view of GMail.
>
> It should at the very least _tell_ me that it is not sending them to
> me, instead of silently making them disappear. I've set it to take
> messages it POPs out of my inbox, and this results in them
> disappearing essentially (Though the "all mail" folder contains them
> still).
>
> > Because I'm using Mail.app I set up smart folders for each
> > subscribed mailing list which include my own sent mails to the
> > mailing list. Then I can see them, too as well.
>
> I have set rules that move the files to local mailboxes, but of
> course those rules only apply to incoming mail :(
>
> > Another workaround could be to use the user
> > "recent:yourgmailaccount" instead "yourgmailaccount" (but I'm not
> > 100% sure about that - but it should work)
>
> I might have to do something like that.
>
> > Niels
>
> Haris Skiadas
> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Hanover College
>
>
>
>
>
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Mail.app or some other email desktop client. If you're using the Gmail
supplied web interface then everything is done in "conversations", and
then it makes sense for them to automatically not show you your
response.
I highly recommend not using desktop email clients with Gmail. Instead
you might want to try Mailplane ( http://mailplaneapp.com/ ) which
offers most (not all) of the features you would want out of a desktop
email client (like drag and drop, and notifications) but uses the
Gmail web interface.
- Brian
On 8/8/07, Charilaos Skiadas <cskiadas@...> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Charilaos Skiadas wrote:
> >
> >> Hopefully someone can help me with the following simple problem.
> >>
> >> I recently moved to a gmail account for my mailing list
> >> subscriptions. I have enabled POP access in gmail, and set
> >> Mail.app to read those messages. Everything works just fine,
> >> except for the fact that I never get to see my own messages to the
> >> list, even though I have set my list preferences so as to receive
> >> them. Anyone encountered this before?
> >
> > That's the normal behaviour of GMail (it's a feature, not a bug).
>
> I can only consider it a feature in the M$ meaning of the word. This
> is definitely a bug in my eyes.
> http://playbacktime.com/2007/01/22/gmail-pop-mailing-lists-broken/
>
> > It detects your messages from mailing-lists and doesn't send them
> > too you. You can see them in the thread view of GMail.
>
> It should at the very least _tell_ me that it is not sending them to
> me, instead of silently making them disappear. I've set it to take
> messages it POPs out of my inbox, and this results in them
> disappearing essentially (Though the "all mail" folder contains them
> still).
>
> > Because I'm using Mail.app I set up smart folders for each
> > subscribed mailing list which include my own sent mails to the
> > mailing list. Then I can see them, too as well.
>
> I have set rules that move the files to local mailboxes, but of
> course those rules only apply to incoming mail :(
>
> > Another workaround could be to use the user
> > "recent:yourgmailaccount" instead "yourgmailaccount" (but I'm not
> > 100% sure about that - but it should work)
>
> I might have to do something like that.
>
> > Niels
>
> Haris Skiadas
> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Hanover College
>
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> For new threads USE THIS: textmate@...
> (threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
> http://lists.macromates.com/mailman/listinfo/textmate
>
______________________________________________________________________
For new threads USE THIS: textmate@...
(threading gets destroyed and the universe will collapse if you don't)
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