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Re: Wikinews has failed
by WJhonson
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Wikinews should be gracefully shut down. It's long since failed to serve
any service to the community or to the world. Few to no Wikipedia articles point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. And I submit that no outside agency points at Wikinews articles for anything. Why do we still have this project? Will _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l |
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Re: Wikinews has failed
by Nathan Awrich
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We keep it because some people use it, some people contribute to it,
and it costs us very little to keep it going. All projects that are useful and well used were at one point completely obscure, including the English Wikipedia. That obscurity is not, of itself, a good reason to delete the entire project. Is this because you're upset at being moderated on wikinews-l? Nathan On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM, <WJhonson@...> wrote: > Wikinews should be gracefully shut down. It's long since failed to serve > any service to the community or to the world. Few to no Wikipedia articles > point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. And I submit that > no outside agency points at Wikinews articles for anything. > > Why do we still have this project? > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- Your donations keep Wikipedia running! Support the Wikimedia Foundation today: http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l |
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Re: Wikinews has failed
by George Herbert
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, <WJhonson@...> wrote:
> [...] Few to no Wikipedia articles > point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. I believe that there's a policy determination that Wikinews is not a Wikipedia "Reliable Source" as defined in [[WP:RS]], so not having pointers from Wikipedia to Wikinews is to be expected. (I leave the rest of the case for others to debate). -- -george william herbert george.herbert@... _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l |
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Re: Wikinews has failed
by WJhonson
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But George we do have pointers from Wikipedia to Wikisource, Wikiquote, and so on. Wikinews is sort of the red-headed stepchild of the entire collective. It's been going for years and yet only has 15,000 English-language articles. That's probably smaller even than Citizendium. The failure is even more severe when a project is so small that it can be dominated by a clique of people pushing power-plays to silence opponents. That is simply in my mind anathema to our entire structure. When a club becomes an effective tool, used by those in power against those not, than a project should be shut down. Will Johnson -----Original Message----- From: George Herbert <george.herbert@...> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l@...> Sent: Wed, Nov 4, 2009 1:16 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has failed On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, <WJhonson@...> wrote: > [...] Few to no Wikipedia articles > point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. I believe that there's a policy determination that Wikinews is not a Wikipedia "Reliable Source" as defined in [[WP:RS]], so not having pointers from Wikipedia to Wikinews is to be expected. (I leave the rest of the case for others to debate). -- -george william herbert george.herbert@... _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l |
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Re: Wikinews has failed
by altally
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, <WJhonson@...> wrote:
> Wikinews should be gracefully shut down. It's long since failed to serve > any service to the community or to the world. Few to no Wikipedia articles > point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. And I submit that > no outside agency points at Wikinews articles for anything. > > Why do we still have this project? > > Will If you are serious, and not just trolling sour grapes after being moderated on the wikinews mailing list, the appropriate place to suggest project closures is Metawiki. --Majorly _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l |
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