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Yes, great piece of software, I use it on any computer I am working on.

One suggestion to make it more likely I take breaks:
The "Show postpone and skip button" is all one tick box.

Can you make it into two ? ie.
Tick box for: "Show postpone button"
Tick box for: "Show skip button"

if the postpone button is shown then upon each postpone the time for the postpone is cut in half until after say 3 postponese there is no choice, you are locked out.

I tend to otherwise skip things too often - a self discipline thing I know.

thanks
if this should be posted in some other way let me know please
thanks
heiko
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Today's Topics:

  1. Different implementation for "Do not suspend timers    when
      inactive" (Kees-Jan Dijkzeul)
  2. Force Typing Break? (JC)
  3. Re: Force Typing Break? (JC)
  4. Re: Force Typing Break? (JC)
  5. Re: Force Typing Break? (Kees-Jan Dijkzeul)
  6. "Allways on top" doesn't work (Ole Dahl Rasmussen)
  7. FW: Question (Connelly, John T)
  8. Compiling 1.8.5 from source - sigc++-1.2 not found    on Suse
      10.1 (Chris Borrill)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:42:43 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Kees-Jan Dijkzeul" <kees-jan.dijkzeul@...>
Subject: [Workrave-user] Different implementation for "Do not suspend
    timers    when inactive"
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Hi,

For some time, Workrave has had a configuration option, where you could
disable the "suspend timers when inactive" feature, which is turned on by
default.

If I recall correctly, this option was added to make workrave more useful
to people reading the screen: Breaks would still come, regardless of
whether workrave had detected any activity.

Although I am not using this feature myself, I do not think it is working
really well in practice. The only time it will work, is if you are reading
the screen without being interrupted by anything else. Interruptions
(phone call, coffee break, visit the restroom) all count as activity,
regardless of how long the interruption takes (In my case, fetching coffee
definitely takes longer than a restbreak). Additionally, there have been
quite a few bugs found in the implementation. The last one is bug 719,
submitted only last month.

Recently, Michael Levin added a comment to bug 479 (which requests
implementation of a "reading mode"), that made me rethink the whole
suspend-timer-when-inactive thing. What Michael proposes, in short, is
that there be a new mode. In this mode, if the user becomes inactive, and
then active again before a natural break is complete, then the user is in
retrospect considered active anyway. Michaels goal was to read from the
screen while occasionally waving the mouse (or scrolling the document).
With this new mode, he'd be considered active the whole time, and get his
breaks in time.

My feeling is that Michaels suggestion will work much better than the
current "disable suspend-timer-when-inactive" approach, because it still
allows a "natural break" to take place if the user is interrupted long
enough. This way, when you return to the computer, you'll have the maximum
amount of time available, instead of finding that you have returned just
one minute before your break is due. Additionally, I would suspect that
this feature has less impact on workrave's design than the current
"disable suspend-timer-when-inactive", and hence less bugs are to be
expected.

I am tempted to conclude that it might be a good idea to completely scrap
the "disable suspend-timer-when-inactive" thingy, in favor of Michaels
proposal. I'm not sure what to call it yet. Maybe something like "Ignore
incomplete natural breaks" or something.

Any thoughts? Anyone still disabeling "suspend-timers-when-inactive"?

Thanks!

Groetjes,

Kees-Jan




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:11:54 -0700
From: JC <ubunt2@...>
Subject: [Workrave-user] Force Typing Break?
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How can i make WorkRave force me to go on a break, whether I like it or not?

... a Break where I am "locked-out" of my computer for X minutes.

(I'm thinking of something like Gnome's Keyboard Setting's Typing Break)



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:14:13 -0700
From: JC <ubunt2@...>
Subject: Re: [Workrave-user] Force Typing Break?
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By the way, I'm on Ubuntu Linux. Workrave is version 1.8.5



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:36:18 -0700
From: JC <ubunt2@...>
Subject: Re: [Workrave-user] Force Typing Break?
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Oh, the reason why the "forced typing break" wasn't working was
because, when I was playing around with workrave, I changed "mode"
from "normal" to "suspended".

What is suspended and quiet modes, anyway?



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:11:02 +0200
From: Kees-Jan Dijkzeul <kees-jan.dijkzeul@...>
Subject: Re: [Workrave-user] Force Typing Break?
To: End-user mailing list <workrave-user@...>
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Wow... That's a lot of e-mails for one question :-) Let's start near the
end...

JC wrote:
> What is suspended and quiet modes, anyway?

"Normal" mode is for normal usage. It will prompt you to break and, if
so configured, force you to take the break.

"Quiet" mode is pretty much like normal mode, in that it will still
register your activity, and notice that you need to take a break, but it
will not actually prompt you to take one, nor block you from using the
computer. This is typically used when you want to show something on your
computer to someone else. You are using the computer doing the
explaining and the showing, but you do not want to be interrupted by
breaks. Once you return to normal mode, Workrave will bother you with
taking an "overdue" break, if necessary

In "Suspended" mode, workrave no longer records your activity. This is
typically used when someone else is using your computer for a brief
time. In these cases, you may not want to quit workrave, and you also
don't want the activity recorded, because it isn't yours, and hence you
will not need to take any "overdue" breaks. When someone else is using
the computer for a longer time, it is best to quit workrave altogether.

JC wrote:
> How can i make WorkRave force me to go on a break, whether I like it or not?
>
> ... a Break where I am "locked-out" of my computer for X minutes.
>
> (I'm thinking of something like Gnome's Keyboard Setting's Typing Break)


    * Switch back to "normal" mode.
    * Open the preferences window to the break type of your choice, and
      set the "Maximum number of prompts" to 1.
    * In the "UI" section, set "Block mode" to either "Block input" or
      "Block input and screen"

That should do it.

Groetjes,

Kees-Jan

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:15:17 +0200
From: Ole Dahl Rasmussen <odr@...>
Subject: [Workrave-user] "Allways on top" doesn't work
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Hi,

First of all thank you very much for a great piece of software. I use it every day and am sure that it has spared me plenty of RSI.

I am having troubles, however, with getting the status window to stay on top, even though I have ticked the "The status window stays always on top of other windows" in the User interface in Preferences.

As soon as I click other programs with the mouse, the status window disappears. I work on Windows XP using mostly Office 2003.

Best,
Ole

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:25:01 -0400
From: "Connelly, John T" <CONNELLY004@...>
Subject: [Workrave-user] FW: Question
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:49:38 +1200
From: Chris Borrill <Chris.Borrill@...>
Subject: [Workrave-user] Compiling 1.8.5 from source - sigc++-1.2 not
    found    on Suse 10.1
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Hi,

When I execute ./configure I get the following error:

checking for SIGC... configure: error: Package requirements (sigc++-1.2) were not met:

No package 'sigc++-1.2' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables SIGC_CFLAGS
and SIGC_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.


When a look in the software manager in Yast this version of sigc is not present, just libsigc++2.

Can anyone tell me how to install sigc++-1.2?

Thankyou,
Chris

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