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Re: about the garden
by Christopher Cherrett
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Jan has some valid points.
Why so fast to dismiss criticism?
RG was simply impossible to use for my work flow till I and others made
some major code adjustments.
I see this happen a lot in linux audio circles. Because it is open
source developers tend to disregard user input (as negative as it may be)
The issue is that a user comes in frustrated because the app is acting
retarded, they express their frustrations and instead of trying to deal
with the user, the story of the selfless open source dev gets pulled out
and the issues are often not fixed.
>From experience I can say some of my best coding results have come from
listening to people who are angry with my software. Make them happy and
you most likely will have a much better app for it.
Jan, what sort of music are you trying to write?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] about the garden
From: Brian Clem <mrbrianclem@...>
To: Jan Smith <selfclone@...>
Cc: luisgarrido@..., rosegarden-user@...
Date: 06/18/09 20:04
> Jan,
>
> Your tone is not acceptable on this forum. I am speaking for only
> myself, but I have learned a LOT from the people in this group.
> Members have gone out of their way to help. You are speaking with
> developers that have been working with Rosegarden since its
> beginning. It is very amazing how they work to integrate ideas
> without guile. They do not have R&D overhead. I would imagine that
> most, or all, take this Rosegarden challenge as a 2nd job out of
> love. Your vile arrogance is sickening. Why dont you put your 'big
> boy' pants on and fix the freaking manuel if you can make it better.
> I am sure your help would be appriciated... but I somehow feel you are
> just about negativity and come here with an adgenda. You should leave
> the way you came...
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Jan Smith <selfclone@...
> <mailto:selfclone@...>> wrote:
>
> I was sure to get a reply like that, wasn't I, Luigi? Having
> perfomed that function, thanks for fulfilling a role in the
> partiture -- if you have something useful to say please do again,
> Luigi.
>
> As I mentioned, those
> "open-sores-are-free!!-so-just-don't-download them!!" argument are
> worse than pointless -- they are misguided. Even if they seem to
> be popular across "the tubes", they miss any point of criticiscm
> (badly).
>
> As the most popular software turns to open source, I think we need
> a different ethos...
>
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Why so fast to dismiss criticism?
RG was simply impossible to use for my work flow till I and others made
some major code adjustments.
I see this happen a lot in linux audio circles. Because it is open
source developers tend to disregard user input (as negative as it may be)
The issue is that a user comes in frustrated because the app is acting
retarded, they express their frustrations and instead of trying to deal
with the user, the story of the selfless open source dev gets pulled out
and the issues are often not fixed.
>From experience I can say some of my best coding results have come from
listening to people who are angry with my software. Make them happy and
you most likely will have a much better app for it.
Jan, what sort of music are you trying to write?
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] about the garden
From: Brian Clem <mrbrianclem@...>
To: Jan Smith <selfclone@...>
Cc: luisgarrido@..., rosegarden-user@...
Date: 06/18/09 20:04
> Jan,
>
> Your tone is not acceptable on this forum. I am speaking for only
> myself, but I have learned a LOT from the people in this group.
> Members have gone out of their way to help. You are speaking with
> developers that have been working with Rosegarden since its
> beginning. It is very amazing how they work to integrate ideas
> without guile. They do not have R&D overhead. I would imagine that
> most, or all, take this Rosegarden challenge as a 2nd job out of
> love. Your vile arrogance is sickening. Why dont you put your 'big
> boy' pants on and fix the freaking manuel if you can make it better.
> I am sure your help would be appriciated... but I somehow feel you are
> just about negativity and come here with an adgenda. You should leave
> the way you came...
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Jan Smith <selfclone@...
> <mailto:selfclone@...>> wrote:
>
> I was sure to get a reply like that, wasn't I, Luigi? Having
> perfomed that function, thanks for fulfilling a role in the
> partiture -- if you have something useful to say please do again,
> Luigi.
>
> As I mentioned, those
> "open-sores-are-free!!-so-just-don't-download them!!" argument are
> worse than pointless -- they are misguided. Even if they seem to
> be popular across "the tubes", they miss any point of criticiscm
> (badly).
>
> As the most popular software turns to open source, I think we need
> a different ethos...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now
> <http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPG&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try+bing_1x1>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial
> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited
> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing
> server and web deployment.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects
> _______________________________________________
> Rosegarden-user mailing list
> Rosegarden-user@...
> <mailto:Rosegarden-user@...> - use the link
> below to unsubscribe
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial
> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited
> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing
> server and web deployment.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Rosegarden-user@... - use the link below to unsubscribe
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
>
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