Re: eGroupWare workflow

[Nathan Gray]

On 5-Feb-09, at 3:23 AM, Sin wrote:

> I searched for a workflow module for eGroupWare and found one in 1.2  
> but not in 1.4 or 1.6. I saw you are the only active commiter in /
> trunk/workflow/ and just want to ask you about workflow status.

It works, but is not actively maintained.  It's a little tricky to get  
set up, but the build agent takes care of all the really hard stuff.

> Why it is not distributed with eGroupWare releases?

Not a lot of people need use it.  It's pretty powerful, but requires  
some detailed setup.

> I'd like some real world usecase examples but fail to google one. Is  
> it stable? Do you use it in production? Do you use workflows somehow  
> in pERP?

It's about as stable as the rest of pERP.  We do not use workflow  
based manufacturing in production yet, it's in testing right now.

> Can you recommend some reading on using/developing for this module  
> besides http://www.egroupware.org/index.php?page_name=applications&lang=&wikipage=Work-flow+engine 
>   ?

It's based on / uses the galaxia workflow engine, so the little  
information you can find on galaxia is mostly applicable.  It looks  
like things are clearing up for me, so I'll try and put some  
instructions up in the next month or so.

Basically, you build a workflow process to match your actual  
manufacturing process.  For each workflow activity that uses  
inventory, use a build agent to pull the inventory based on the bill  
of materials.  That's vague, I know.

Nathan Gray
nathan at goarctic dot com


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[Nathan Gray]

On 5-Feb-09, at 8:32 AM, Nathan Gray wrote:

>  I'll try and put some
> instructions up in the next month or so.

http://www.projecterp.org/mediawiki/index.php/Setting_Up_Workflow

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[radieu]

Hi guys

Somone ask about production use of workflow module based on galaxia.
Soo we did it few times for some clients in Poland (Some of processes was over 50 activities even soo it was work anyway).

Natan - maybe configuration workflow is a bit harder than other modules in EGW but its still not to hard for average experienced egw administrator. I supose that u was thought about tricks in making process and forms.

IMAO if somone is looking for big, powerfull workflow system, he should look something based on java engines - Galaxy workflow logic is still short of online indycators (u can use crone + scripting but its not good for all)

But if your processes are not often change and u dont need autmatic system behaviour over time (or you like to use crone for that) then u can use workflow module to make some nice aplications.

From another side i have good experience with developers - when i give to new (green) programmers todo in workflow logic with bussines documentation and designed process - they get experience really fast.

Nathan Gray wrote:

On 5-Feb-09, at 3:23 AM, Sin wrote:

> I searched for a workflow module for eGroupWare and found one in 1.2  
> but not in 1.4 or 1.6. I saw you are the only active commiter in /
> trunk/workflow/ and just want to ask you about workflow status.

It works, but is not actively maintained.  It's a little tricky to get  
set up, but the build agent takes care of all the really hard stuff.

> Why it is not distributed with eGroupWare releases?

Not a lot of people need use it.  It's pretty powerful, but requires  
some detailed setup.

> I'd like some real world usecase examples but fail to google one. Is  
> it stable? Do you use it in production? Do you use workflows somehow  
> in pERP?

It's about as stable as the rest of pERP.  We do not use workflow  
based manufacturing in production yet, it's in testing right now.

> Can you recommend some reading on using/developing for this module  
> besides http://www.egroupware.org/index.php?page_name=applications&lang=&wikipage=Work-flow+engine 
>   ?

It's based on / uses the galaxia workflow engine, so the little  
information you can find on galaxia is mostly applicable.  It looks  
like things are clearing up for me, so I'll try and put some  
instructions up in the next month or so.

Basically, you build a workflow process to match your actual  
manufacturing process.  For each workflow activity that uses  
inventory, use a build agent to pull the inventory based on the bill  
of materials.  That's vague, I know.

Nathan Gray
nathan at goarctic dot com


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[fadia]

Nathan Gray wrote:

On 5-Feb-09, at 3:23 AM, Sin wrote:

> I searched for a workflow module for eGroupWare and found one in 1.2  
> but not in 1.4 or 1.6. I saw you are the only active commiter in /
> trunk/workflow/ and just want to ask you about workflow status.

It works, but is not actively maintained.  It's a little tricky to get  
set up, but the build agent takes care of all the really hard stuff.

> Why it is not distributed with eGroupWare releases?

Not a lot of people need use it.  It's pretty powerful, but requires  
some detailed setup.

> I'd like some real world usecase examples but fail to google one. Is  
> it stable? Do you use it in production? Do you use workflows somehow  
> in pERP?

It's about as stable as the rest of pERP.  We do not use workflow  
based manufacturing in production yet, it's in testing right now.

> Can you recommend some reading on using/developing for this module  
> besides http://www.egroupware.org/index.php?page_name=applications&lang=&wikipage=Work-flow+engine 
>   ?

It's based on / uses the galaxia workflow engine, so the little  
information you can find on galaxia is mostly applicable.  It looks  
like things are clearing up for me, so I'll try and put some  
instructions up in the next month or so.

Basically, you build a workflow process to match your actual  
manufacturing process.  For each workflow activity that uses  
inventory, use a build agent to pull the inventory based on the bill  
of materials.  That's vague, I know.

Nathan Gray
nathan at goarctic dot com


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