Re: hardware research budget

Steve,

A group of graduate students(inclduding me) at Davis is doing a comprehensive GPS test of Garmin 60Csx, Holux m1000, Trimble Juno and Trimble GeoXM. We ran some initial data in the Fall and are doing a more comprehensive survey right now.

In order to facilitate this ICE purchased 12 Junos and 6 GeoXM units for teaching. If anyone is in the Sacramento region and interested in getting a chance to look at these units the Geography Club is holding some workshops, one of which will be this Saturday.
I posted the flyer http://daviswiki.org/GLOBAL/GPS
We will be doing data collection for the analysis at the same time if you want to come chat about the study design and sampling protocol. Also note that we bought Terrasync licenses so that we could compare it against Arcpad and Oziexplorer.

It may be possible to arrange a special workshop for DFG and other agencies to get a chance to work with these units without having to buy them. Also I will let you guys know about preliminary stats results on the units and when we send the paper in for publication.

Yes a wiki or some other knowledge base would be great,
Alex

PS: Yes I did load my latest Aspen forms on a Juno yesterday.

>>> "Steven Goldman" <sgoldman@...> 03/11/08 11:01 AM >>>
Hey all,

Regarding a hardware budget, at BDB we generally have a decent
equipment budget so there is potential there.  If we're going to be
purchasing stuff for testing though we really need some standard metrics
to report back to the group.  This again is really where a wiki site on
the intranet would come in handy.  ITB is really stalling on doing
anything about that - I'll bug them again.

Alex, I know you have some standard accuracy testing that you do, which
is great.  BTW, it sounds like you have a Juno, yes?  I'm purchasing a
couple for Isaac to use at OSPR and was thinking of adding one more to
the order for wider testing use, if that would be helpful for anyone.
-Steve

>>> "Tracy Love" <tlove@...> 3/6/2008 11:17 AM >>>
(fyi ; ive been doing allot of google mashup stuff lately, super cool
not so hard turns out)

its an ARM processor and the screen resolution is 800 * 480 so some
things would be a pain i would think to port.  

i have been spending a fair amount of time looking at x86 based UMPCS
particularly the ones with GEODE or VIA  processors but few have
daylight readable displays and the cost is still up there for an
agency
like DFG. but yes cross platform application would be tremendous but i
have a hard time seeing staff useing say QGIS or UDIG on a UMPC in the
field, just not tailored enough.  

the n810 mapping application apparently is purely orriented towards
raster and those developing it have no plan on integrating reading say
KML ontop of the raster background. thier raster method is apparently
to
read google style tile sets directly from disk. so i believe you can
create your own tile sets (ive seen the tools) without needing to work
through a server. but i have been wondering if a server setup on the
unit could facilitate dynamic shp/kml rendering.  

i need to buy one of those bluetooth ones and try it out (geeez i need
a real hardware research budget)
the one that caught my eye recently was at the semsons site under data
loggers....

http://www.semsons.com/hogr3bldalog.html 

it uses a AA battery and still runs for a fair time, works as a data
logger or bluetooth

DFG needs a general hardware research budget where we buy gear and
pass
it around for groups JUST to test
so for gps we would buy members of the trimble line
and also buy a number of PDA/ tablet/UMPC products for mobile
computing
testing



 

Tracy Love
Research Analyst
tlove@...
California Department of Fish and Game
Bay Delta Region
p.o box 47
Yountville, CA
707-944-5532
(cell) 707-227-4568


>>> "Alex Mandel" <amandel@...> 3/6/2008 12:47 AM >>>
I'll be real interested to hear about results. Keep in mind since it's
a linux platform it shouldn't be to hard to package up some really
good
software for it. I'll check up with the QGIS developers to see if any
of
them have a had chance to try it yet. I bet we could also setup a
local
WMS service with an OpenLayers html page locally on the device to
server
raster tiles ourself in a web browser as well as any other Library
layers we want over the web.

What interests me the most though is that with a real OS we can look
at
things like Python and Java more realistically for cross platform
multi
device programs.

In terms of the GPS you can easily add a bluetooth one from this page
http://www.semsons.com/bluetgpsrec.html 
I've used the Holux m1000 but heard good things about the iBlue too.

I'm currently running field tests of statistical significance with the
Holux M1000, Garmin 60Csx, Trimble Juno and Timble Geo XT and will let
you all know the results of that test when they become available.

Alex


>>> On 3/5/2008 at 18:08, "Tracy Love" <tlove@...> wrote:
> so we recently ordered and are about to return a new magellan triton
2000
> the thing can display raster maps
> but overall it sucks so back it goes
>
> today i just ordered a Nokia n810 to test out for the same pourpose
> 1. daylight read able screen
> 2. built in keyboard
> 3. cheap nokia battery
> 4. built in gps (not the best one though)
> 5. Maemo Mapper which apparently downloads google tiles as the
mapping have a much
>
>> better battery life then all the UMPCs I've looked at.
>> For kicks also take a peek at the Asus eepc.
>> http://eeepc.asus.com/global/ 
>>
>> Alex
>
> Forgot to mention the Nokia 810 too.
>
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N810-Portable-Internet-Tablet/dp/B000Y4AH3C/ref=pd_b


> bs_11?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1204755981&sr=8-11
>
> Alex





 
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