Re: list going away

[John McClain - Sun Microsystems, Inc.]

Sadly, this also applies to JINI-USERS and JAVASPACES-USERS.

Peter Jones wrote:

> I'm sorry to report that it has come to my attention that the LISTSERV
> running at archives.java.sun.com, which hosts this email list among
> others, will cease operation at the end of this month (i.e. midnight
> US Pacific time on May 31, 2009).  While the traffic on this list has
> certainly dwindled recently, I think that the archives contain a
> valuable knowledge base, and I hope that they can be made available
> elsewhere somehow (I am retrieving a copy through the LISTSERV email
> interface while the server is still running).
>
> -- Peter

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[Peter Jones - JavaSoft East]

[To clarify context for those not also on RMI-USERS, my message below
was posted to that list earlier today.]

This seems like an appropriate time to suggest subscribing to one or
more of the Apache River mailing lists:

    http://incubator.apache.org/river/RIVER/mailing-lists.html

-- Peter


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:34:14PM -0400, John McClain wrote:

> Sadly, this also applies to JINI-USERS and JAVASPACES-USERS.
>
> Peter Jones wrote:
>> I'm sorry to report that it has come to my attention that the LISTSERV
>> running at archives.java.sun.com, which hosts this email list among
>> others, will cease operation at the end of this month (i.e. midnight
>> US Pacific time on May 31, 2009).  While the traffic on this list has
>> certainly dwindled recently, I think that the archives contain a
>> valuable knowledge base, and I hope that they can be made available
>> elsewhere somehow (I am retrieving a copy through the LISTSERV email
>> interface while the server is still running).
>>
>> -- Peter

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[Jim Hurley-4]

Argh.

John- is there any way to get a copy of the archives (jini-users and
javaspaces-users) and put them up on Apache River project for reference?

thanks -Jim


On May 27, 2009, at 7:34 PM, John McClain wrote:

> Sadly, this also applies to JINI-USERS and JAVASPACES-USERS.
>
> Peter Jones wrote:
>> I'm sorry to report that it has come to my attention that the  
>> LISTSERV
>> running at archives.java.sun.com, which hosts this email list among
>> others, will cease operation at the end of this month (i.e. midnight
>> US Pacific time on May 31, 2009).  While the traffic on this list has
>> certainly dwindled recently, I think that the archives contain a
>> valuable knowledge base, and I hope that they can be made available
>> elsewhere somehow (I am retrieving a copy through the LISTSERV email
>> interface while the server is still running).
>> -- Peter
>
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[Patrick Wright]

Yes, and perhaps it could then be handed off to Nabble or MarkMail...?

I've found the archives absolutely invaluable in learning about Jini,
even very old mail threads are full of important info.


Regards
Patrick


On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jim Hurley <jim.hurley@...> wrote:
> Argh.
>
> John- is there any way to get a copy of the archives (jini-users and
> javaspaces-users) and put them up on Apache River project for reference?
>
> thanks -Jim

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[Jeff Ramsdale-2]

Forwarding, in case the lists are still live...

-j

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeff Ramsdale <jeff.ramsdale@...>
Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: list going away
To: river-dev@...


Hi folks,

jini.org was hacked within the past two weeks. I was pretty current on the MediaWiki software, so I don't know how they did it. I've got a support request in to see if I can learn more. Meanwhile I was able to restore from backup and remove a handful of recent page spams.

I'd like to once again thank the handful of folks helping police the pages for spam and bringing the hack to my attention.

In case anyone is wondering, Jini.org is run by myself and Jim Hurley, neither of whom is associated with Sun (currently). Therefore the site doesn't necessarily go away just because the old e-mail lists do. I'm interested to see if/whether a long-term plan emerges for maintaining Jini.org and Jini as a concept and site distinct from Apache River. I'm certainly willing to help carry the technology and content forward under either or both flags. A caveat, though: I won't likely have more bandwidth to offer the site than I currently do. So my attention is spotty.

-jeff

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Peter Firmstone <jini@...> wrote:

I've also found this very useful.

The content from www.jini.org also seems to be missing. jini.dev.java.net is still up ,any idea on how long this site will remain available?

Solaris zones are available on apache.org, I'll assist with setting up an apache webserver in a zone, to host the old sites if someone has a copy of the scripts, web pages and original webserver configuration settings.  I don't have the necessary permissions to setup one of these zones however, it requires a PMC.


        What Is A PMC?

A project management committee (PMC) is a committee of the Apache Software Foundation charged with responsibility for a top level project. The PMC is the vehicle through which decision making power and responsibility for oversight is devolved to developers


http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html

Peter.

Patrick Wright wrote:

Yes, and perhaps it could then be handed off to Nabble or MarkMail...?

I've found the archives absolutely invaluable in learning about Jini,
even very old mail threads are full of important info.


Regards
Patrick


On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jim Hurley <jim.hurley@...> wrote:
 

Argh.

John- is there any way to get a copy of the archives (jini-users and
javaspaces-users) and put them up on Apache River project for reference?

thanks -Jim
   

 

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[levmatta-3]

Thanks Jeff,
   you and Jim are heroes for me, and for my part I will try to go over all pages (again). I vote on keeping the site distinct and with the current name, since as far as I understand Apache River is a Jini implementation. But it would be very nice if the people involved in Apache River would use a lot more of Jini.org.

For folks out there there is the always strong Javaspaces including Gigaspaces, Distributed OSGi including Newton (OSGi + Jini, which to me is better with Google Guice Peaberry). None of that is getting into the site (and I have a pretty narrow view). I would certainly like to hear more on Apache River.

Thanks again

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Jeff Ramsdale <jeff.ramsdale@...> wrote:

Forwarding, in case the lists are still live...

-j

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeff Ramsdale <jeff.ramsdale@...>
Date: Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: list going away
To: river-dev@...


Hi folks,

jini.org was hacked within the past two weeks. I was pretty current on the MediaWiki software, so I don't know how they did it. I've got a support request in to see if I can learn more. Meanwhile I was able to restore from backup and remove a handful of recent page spams.

I'd like to once again thank the handful of folks helping police the pages for spam and bringing the hack to my attention.

In case anyone is wondering, Jini.org is run by myself and Jim Hurley, neither of whom is associated with Sun (currently). Therefore the site doesn't necessarily go away just because the old e-mail lists do. I'm interested to see if/whether a long-term plan emerges for maintaining Jini.org and Jini as a concept and site distinct from Apache River. I'm certainly willing to help carry the technology and content forward under either or both flags. A caveat, though: I won't likely have more bandwidth to offer the site than I currently do. So my attention is spotty.

-jeff

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Peter Firmstone <jini@...> wrote:

I've also found this very useful.

The content from www.jini.org also seems to be missing. jini.dev.java.net is still up ,any idea on how long this site will remain available?

Solaris zones are available on apache.org, I'll assist with setting up an apache webserver in a zone, to host the old sites if someone has a copy of the scripts, web pages and original webserver configuration settings.  I don't have the necessary permissions to setup one of these zones however, it requires a PMC.


        What Is A PMC?

A project management committee (PMC) is a committee of the Apache Software Foundation charged with responsibility for a top level project. The PMC is the vehicle through which decision making power and responsibility for oversight is devolved to developers


http://www.apache.org/dev/solaris-zones.html

Peter.

Patrick Wright wrote:

Yes, and perhaps it could then be handed off to Nabble or MarkMail...?

I've found the archives absolutely invaluable in learning about Jini,
even very old mail threads are full of important info.


Regards
Patrick


On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Jim Hurley <jim.hurley@...> wrote:
 

Argh.

John- is there any way to get a copy of the archives (jini-users and
javaspaces-users) and put them up on Apache River project for reference?

thanks -Jim
   

 

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[Patrick Wright]

Hi all

Jim Waldo was went the extra mile and has uploaded the listserv
archives for Jini-users and Javaspace-users to the Apache River issue
tracking list. MarkMail has emailed me that they can host them, but
will need them in mbox format. If anyone has experience with listserv
to mbox conversion and can give tips, or would like to help, please
write back. Otherwise I will take a swing at the conversion this
weekend.


Cheers
Patrick

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