Re: looking for a new name

>On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Angela Cymbalak
><<mailto:a.cymbalak@...>a.cymbalak@...> wrote:
>I have to go with something Noel mentioned when we first started
>discussing the name.  He said (paraphrase) that it is much easier to
>settle on a name before setting up all the resources (maillists,
>jira, etc.)  Therefore, I think that we should address the concerns
>now before the infrastructure for the project is set up.
>I have no problem with 2A but I do fear that Google may not give the
>statement.  I have a sneaking suspicion that companies only decide
>that a name is "too close" when the new product starts getting big
>enough to encroach on "their turf".  It may be easier to just avoid
>the question altogether.
>There is also option 3, which I think would also be in the Apache
>way.  That would be, call a vote on it and see who thinks the name
>is too close.  But, that could just drag things out.
>All that being said, I like either Snapshot or Shutter.  However,
>Shutter is taken[1].  SnapShot is also taken[2].    I did appreciate
>the alliterations on general@ with that one, btw.  Neither of these
>pieces of software is close to what we are doing so does that matter?
>For what it is worth, Shoebox is the name of a software company[3].
>Can we do a play on the Louvre?  Can we steal Click from that project?
>My list:
>Lewva
>PixPlace
>Blur
>PixBlur
>I'm liking Lewva and Blur myself.  I do also like SchuhKarton, the
>only drawback being the length.
>
>
>Lewva sounds too much like "loofah" to me. I like Blur, though.
>
>--
>Martin Cooper
>
>
>
>Angie
>[1]<http://www.cygnet-infotech.com/Screenshot/Shutter-Manufacturing-System-software.htm>http://www.cygnet-infotech.com/Screenshot/Shutter-Manufacturing-System-software.htm 
>
>[2]<http://www.allworldsoft.com/software/10-171-web-page-snapshot.htm>http://www.allworldsoft.com/software/10-171-web-page-snapshot.htm 
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>[3]<http://www.download.com/Shoebox-Software/3260-20_4-6283782.html>http://www.download.com/Shoebox-Software/3260-20_4-6283782.html
>
>At 01:54 PM 8/6/2008, Martin Cooper wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Roland Weber
><<mailto:ossfwot@...>ossfwot@...> wrote:
> > Hi Angie,
> >
> >  Should this go to legal discuss to see what the lawyers say?
> >>
> >
> > The lawyers rarely post on legal-discuss. The list is
> > mostly populated by regular non-lawyer people with an
> > interest in the legal minefield, like myself. It's not
> > a place to discuss (non)similarity of names, and I'm
> > pretty sure that no lawyer would enter the discussion.
> >
> >  It seems there are a few who are unsure about the name but others who
> >> don't see a similarity.  Plus, as Craig mentioned, Pica is a very normal
> >> word to use in the line of photo galleries.
> >>
> >
> > Well, the options I see are:
> >
> > A. enter incubation as PicaGalley and...
> > A1. try to keep the name and hope that nobody objects
> >    on graduation
> > A2. seek a statement from Google that they don't
> >    object to our usage of the name
> > A3. change the name later before graduation
> > or
> > B. settle on a new name that doesn't raise any concerns
> >
> > If you're _really_ attached to PicaGalley, you could
> > go for A2. But I doubt that you'll get that kind of
> > statement from Google. A1 is a poor strategy, and
> > graduation might even be delayed not because of the
> > name, but because we didn't address the concerns, at
> > the time when they were raised, in "The Apache Way".
> > That is by seeking the broadest possible consensus.
> >
> > It's not like we have an existing OSS project with
> > many users that would have to learn a new name.
> > We're starting from scratch, and the preliminary
> > name has only been used for three weeks internally.
> > (as "internal" as discussions on public mailing
> > lists can be :-) So my recommendation clearly is B.
> >
> >
> > Additional suggestions on general@ by Martijn were
> > "Snapshot" and "Shutter". Unfortunately, I don't
> > know a catchy translation for the german word
> > "Schuhkarton" (shoe box), which in reality is a
> > much more common place than an album for keeping
> > physical photographies :-)
>
>Shoebox would be a fine name. :-)
>--
>Martin Cooper
>
>
> >
> > cheers,
> >  Roland
> >
> >
> >  Pigalle
> >>>
> >>>> Phos Librarius
> >>>> LibraLux
> >>>> PhosBiblioteka
> >>>> BiblioPic
> >>>> PicAndMix
> >>>> PhoGal
> >>>> PhoGa
> >>>> Foga
> >>>> SnapLib
> >>>> SnapStore
> >>>> PicStore
> >>>> SnapShow
> >>>> PicShow
> >>>> PicLib
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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