Re: manual user creation

> Daniel McCallum schreef:
>> Jon,
>>
>> Unless I'm very much mistaken, it shouldn't be necessary for a  
>> user to log in "before they can be added as a participant." So  
>> long as a user's EID can be resolved to a local or provided set of  
>> user attributes, the corresponding user _should_ be addable to any  
>> given worksite.
> Your not mistaken, Jon. I'm developing a tool that creates user  
> accounts and adds them as participants to sites in a single step.  
> Users can be joined in sites before they've logged on.
>
> Maarten
>>

>> Theoretically, it's valid for UIDs to equal EIDs, and I know some  
>> schools run just such a configuration. However, in general, EIDs  
>> are understood to be owned by an external system of record and as  
>> such are intended to be mutable, whereas UIDs are intended as  
>> opaque, immutable database keys. Thus, in an ideal world, EIDs are  
>> stored only once in the Sakai database, but UIDs can be stored  
>> repeatedly as pseudo-foreign keys. If it's actually true that your  
>> EIDs never ever change, then you could probably get away with  
>> generating SAKAI_USER_ID_MAP rows where USER_ID = EID, but without  
>> fully understanding the motivation for pre-populating those rows,  
>> I would generally advise against taking such risks (i.e., of  
>> scattering potentially mutable FKs around your database).
>>
>> FWIW, /portal/site/~[EID] urls will resolve the correct  
>> MyWorkspace sites, even if UIDs != EIDs. But I understand that  
>> GUID-based MyWorkspace site IDs can be annoying in other contexts.  
>> There is a patch out there (http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/jira/ 
>> browse/SAK-10299), though, that makes it easier for admins to find  
>> MyWorkspace sites by EID.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> - Dan
>>
>> Jon Wheat wrote:
>>> Jon's stupid question of the day ...
>>>
>>> Our faculty are having an issue with the 'they have to log in  
>>> before they
>>> can be added as a participant' thing.
>>>
>>> So I manually added a test account to the SAKAI_USER_ID_MAP  
>>> ( GEORGET )
>>> this user is an LDAP user, not a local user and I made both the  
>>> USER_ID and
>>> EID GEORGET
>>> is that ok since most of the USER_IDs are a random hashish  
>>> looking thing?
>>>
>>> Seems better this way since I can add him as a participant and it  
>>> pulls his
>>> name from LDAP etc.
>>> Plus it creates a Site id of : ~georget
>>>
>>> Any warnings with me moving forward with this concept?
>>>
>>> - Jon
>>>
>>>
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