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Hi Lars,
Lars Kneschke <l.kneschke@...> schrieb am Sat, 9 Feb 2008
08:38:11 +0100:
> "Ralf Becker" <RalfBecker@...> schrieb:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > the rules, as you call it, were made for certain still valid
> > reasons:
> >
> > - not to create the wrong impression, Tine is the accepted future
> > codeline (I know they mentioned it in the press release, but
> > psychology tells us clearly, that this get's far less recognized)
> Hello Ralf!
>
> Of course Tine 2.0 is not the accepted codeline for eGroupWare
> currently. And I'm also aware that not all developers simply can drop
> all their work into the trashcan. But we are developing concepts,
> which can be used to modernize the old eGroupWare code.
>
> For that reason we also stated clearly in the news on the
> eGroupWare.org website, that Tine 2.0 is an experimental branch of
> eGroupWare.
Read your own press release again. It doesn't contain the word
'experimental'. Instead you emphasize 'official subproject' several
times and thereby create the false impression that the decision, that
Tine will be the future technological base of eGW, has already been
made by the project as a whole.
I really appreciate your effort to modernize eGW, but IMO you should
also take into account that the other project members, who are not yet
fully convinced of your proposal, need some kind of protection of their
investment into the existing framework. This is essential and it would
be good if you could stop ignoring this. And it is also to your own
advantage if the customers are still using eGW at the time when Tine
may be ready for productive use. It's not good if you base all your
decisions on the displeasing quarrel which occured.
IMO eGW indeed needs a double-track approach, but members of both
groups really should consider the interests of the opposite side as
well. Please don't act against each other, but settle your differences,
make agreements with the necessary allowances and stick to them. The
project has only a chance of you build the future together.
Kind regards,
Manfred
> --
> Lars Kneschke
> CTO OfficeSpot.Net
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH
> Pickhuben 2-4, D-20457 Hamburg
>
> eGroupWare Support: http://www.egroupware-support.net
> OfficeSpot.Net Collaboration Server: http://cs.officespot.net
> our proposal for the next major eGroupWare release:
> http://www.tine20.org
>
> E-Mail: mailto:l.kneschke@...
> Web: http://www.metaways.de
> Tel: +49 (0)40 317031-21
> Fax: +49 (0)40 317031-921
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>
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>
>
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Lars Kneschke <l.kneschke@...> schrieb am Sat, 9 Feb 2008
08:38:11 +0100:
> "Ralf Becker" <RalfBecker@...> schrieb:
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > the rules, as you call it, were made for certain still valid
> > reasons:
> >
> > - not to create the wrong impression, Tine is the accepted future
> > codeline (I know they mentioned it in the press release, but
> > psychology tells us clearly, that this get's far less recognized)
> Hello Ralf!
>
> Of course Tine 2.0 is not the accepted codeline for eGroupWare
> currently. And I'm also aware that not all developers simply can drop
> all their work into the trashcan. But we are developing concepts,
> which can be used to modernize the old eGroupWare code.
>
> For that reason we also stated clearly in the news on the
> eGroupWare.org website, that Tine 2.0 is an experimental branch of
> eGroupWare.
Read your own press release again. It doesn't contain the word
'experimental'. Instead you emphasize 'official subproject' several
times and thereby create the false impression that the decision, that
Tine will be the future technological base of eGW, has already been
made by the project as a whole.
I really appreciate your effort to modernize eGW, but IMO you should
also take into account that the other project members, who are not yet
fully convinced of your proposal, need some kind of protection of their
investment into the existing framework. This is essential and it would
be good if you could stop ignoring this. And it is also to your own
advantage if the customers are still using eGW at the time when Tine
may be ready for productive use. It's not good if you base all your
decisions on the displeasing quarrel which occured.
IMO eGW indeed needs a double-track approach, but members of both
groups really should consider the interests of the opposite side as
well. Please don't act against each other, but settle your differences,
make agreements with the necessary allowances and stick to them. The
project has only a chance of you build the future together.
Kind regards,
Manfred
> --
> Lars Kneschke
> CTO OfficeSpot.Net
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH
> Pickhuben 2-4, D-20457 Hamburg
>
> eGroupWare Support: http://www.egroupware-support.net
> OfficeSpot.Net Collaboration Server: http://cs.officespot.net
> our proposal for the next major eGroupWare release:
> http://www.tine20.org
>
> E-Mail: mailto:l.kneschke@...
> Web: http://www.metaways.de
> Tel: +49 (0)40 317031-21
> Fax: +49 (0)40 317031-921
> Mobile: +49 (0)175 9304324
>
> Metaways Infosystems GmbH - Sitz: D-22967 Tremsbüttel
> Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Ahrensburg HRB 4508
> Geschäftsführung: Hermann Thaele, Lüder-H.Thaele
>
>
>
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> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
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