Re: ncbi-tools onder Debian Med group maintenance?

[Andreas Tille-5]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 04:18:56PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> Thanks for the invitation, which I would gladly accept if not for one
> major policy disagreement: I find patch systems cumbersome, and
> greatly prefer to work directly with the source.

I guess the initiative of Charles to support git as well as svn might be
right in time to meet your habit.  Charles, could you please comment on
the status whether this is ready to work for members of the Debian Med
Alioth team?  In any case I added Aaron to the project so at least the
needed permissions should be there.

In general I would like to point out: If there is anybody who is in
principle interested in working in the Debian Med team but has some
different habits regarding the workflow we use - please speak up.  I
always think that we can not reduce the size of the team by restricting
the workflow to only one.  In principle it helps if everybody is
comfortable with a prefered workflow but this should be no exclusion
criterion.

> I did a while ago, but accidentally left the bug open (having
> misremembered what the BTS's "fixed" directive actually does); I've
> just sent mail to 510943-done that should correct that.  Thanks for
> pointing it out.

Fine.

Kind regards

      Andreas.

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[Charles Plessy-12]

Le Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:26:51AM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :

> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 04:18:56PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> > Thanks for the invitation, which I would gladly accept if not for one
> > major policy disagreement: I find patch systems cumbersome, and
> > greatly prefer to work directly with the source.
>
> I guess the initiative of Charles to support git as well as svn might be
> right in time to meet your habit.  Charles, could you please comment on
> the status whether this is ready to work for members of the Debian Med
> Alioth team?  In any case I added Aaron to the project so at least the
> needed permissions should be there.

Dear Andreas and Aaron,

the Git repository is ready, and the the ncbi-tools6 is most welcome there. If
there is interest in keeping the history of the package across stable releases,
or even across all the uploads if somebody kept a copy, this can be done easily
with the git-import-dsc program of the git-buildpackage toolkit. I can prepare
it if you are interested in.

Have a nice day

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[Aaron M. Ucko]

Charles Plessy <plessy@...> writes:

> the Git repository is ready, and the the ncbi-tools6 is most welcome there. If
> there is interest in keeping the history of the package across stable releases,
> or even across all the uploads if somebody kept a copy, this can be done easily
> with the git-import-dsc program of the git-buildpackage toolkit. I can prepare
> it if you are interested in.

Great; thanks!  I have been tracking full history in a private svn
repository, so I'll be wanting to convert that to git; any tips on
doing so?

The other point of divergence from the group policy is that I have
been using Debhelper 7 whereas it still recommends version 5.  Is that
likely to be an issue?  (FWIW, lenny has 7.0.15.)

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[Nelson A. de Oliveira-2]

Hi!

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Aaron M. Ucko <ucko@...> wrote:
> Great; thanks!  I have been tracking full history in a private svn
> repository, so I'll be wanting to convert that to git; any tips on
> doing so?

See the package git-svn

Best regards,
Nelson


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[Andreas Tille-5]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:08:48PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> The other point of divergence from the group policy is that I have
> been using Debhelper 7 whereas it still recommends version 5.

Ups, we should update policy definitely.  Recommending debhelper 5 is
oldfashioned.  I'm actively pushing any package I'm touching to
debhelper 7 (because I was noteven aware of this part of the policy
;-) ).

And in any case: It's a *recommendation* and if you have reasons to
diverge from this you can discuss this here.  Perhaps there are other
points which are outdated and we just did not noticed.

> Is that likely to be an issue?  (FWIW, lenny has 7.0.15.)

BTW, I try to push my packages to short debian/rules files using

%:
        dh $@

which needs some features from debhelper >= 7.1.  Even if this debhelper
version is not in Lenny I guess it is on backports and I guess this
change needs some time to penetrate most of our packages and so once
we migrated to this for the large amount of packages we will see at
least one further stable release.  This does not mean I would like to
force packages from cdbs to debhelper.  I will not change any packaging
just for the sake of changing.  The goal should be short and easily
maintainable debian/rules files.  I have the feeling that debhelper
will be more widely accepted in Debian in the future and thus I will
switch packages *if* there is a *reason*.

In other words:  You are free to use either debhelper or cdbs but
I think we should change policy to reflect the fact that cdbs is not
our main preference but the goal are short debian/rules files (if it
makes sense).

Kind regards

        Andreas.

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[Aaron M. Ucko]

"Nelson A. de Oliveira" <naoliv@...> writes:

> See the package git-svn

Thanks for the suggestion!  I found it already, but I wasn't sure
whether a different tool (tailor?) would be more appropriate for
one-shot conversions.

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[Aaron M. Ucko]

Andreas Tille <andreas@...> writes:

> %:
>         dh $@

I've done that for most of my other packages, but it's not a good fit
for ncbi-tools6, whose build system is too idiosyncratic to get much
benefit from it. :-/ Its debian/rules file does still use dh to the
extent possible, though.

> In other words:  You are free to use either debhelper or cdbs but
> I think we should change policy to reflect the fact that cdbs is not
> our main preference but the goal are short debian/rules files (if it
> makes sense).

Makes perfect sense to me, and conveniently matches my own
preferences.  (I used cdbs extensively before migrating to dh.)

Thanks!

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[Charles Plessy-12]

Le Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 09:28:38PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko a écrit :
> "Nelson A. de Oliveira" <naoliv@...> writes:
>
> > See the package git-svn
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!  I found it already, but I wasn't sure
> whether a different tool (tailor?) would be more appropriate for
> one-shot conversions.

Dear Aaron,

there are some recipes on the Debian wiki to have a nicer conversion of the
commit messages than the default one: ‘http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git’.

Have a nice day,

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[Aaron M. Ucko]

Charles Plessy <plessy@...> writes:

> there are some recipes on the Debian wiki to have a nicer conversion of the
> commit messages than the default one: ‘http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/Git’.

Thanks; sorry for missing that.  (Life has been keeping me pretty busy
lately.)  I now have a plausible-looking draft Git repository, but am
holding off on pushing it anywhere public until I get a chance to
sanity check it further.

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