Re: onTap and CFMX 6?

[Marlon Moyer]

S.I.D,

Do you know if there are currently any issues with onTap and BlueDragon?  I seem to be having a problem with the helloword program.  There's an issue with the geolocator not initializing I believe.

Thanks,

Marlon

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[S. Isaac Dealey]

> S.I.D,

> Do you know if there are currently any issues with onTap
> and BlueDragon?  I seem to be having a problem with the
> helloword program.  There's an issue with the geolocator
> not initializing I believe.

> Thanks,

That's not the only issue with BlueDragon unfortunately...

I have always hoped to be able to produce a version of the framework
that would be compatible with some version of BlueDragon and it
continues to become closer to a reality...

I was notified recently that the "properly scoped variable names still
can't have keywords in them" bug has been fixed or was in the process
of being fixed recently... That was my last big problem, as I had some
functions which CF allows me to reference as
request.tapi.html.contains() for instance, but which was producing a
keyword error with BlueDragon (and of course, you can't use
html["contains"]() with either of them).

I haven't gotten back to testing BlueDragon since hearing they were
fixing that... but then I'm also aware now (I wasn't then) that the
implementation fo list functions in BD is incompatible with the
implementation of list functions in CF and I haven't gone through the
code to see all the places where that's going to take a chunk out of
my hide. I expect it to be frustrating to locate and fix all the
problems introduced by that.

I'm pretty sure the geolocator was added after the last time I tried
testing it with BlueDragon... You should be able to disable the
geoLocator by setting request.tap.local.useGeolocator to false in your
_appsettings.cfm. And of course, let us know what your results are. :)



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[Marlon Moyer]

It doesn't look like it'll be easy to get BD up and running.  I've
disabled the geolocator, but once that was done, it still bombs out.
It seems there's some difference in how BD interprets the createobject
command.  It complains when there's more than 2 arguments.

On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:

> > S.I.D,
>
> > Do you know if there are currently any issues with onTap
> > and BlueDragon?  I seem to be having a problem with the
> > helloword program.  There's an issue with the geolocator
> > not initializing I believe.
>
> > Thanks,
>
> That's not the only issue with BlueDragon unfortunately...
>
> I have always hoped to be able to produce a version of the framework
> that would be compatible with some version of BlueDragon and it
> continues to become closer to a reality...
>
> I was notified recently that the "properly scoped variable names still
> can't have keywords in them" bug has been fixed or was in the process
> of being fixed recently... That was my last big problem, as I had some
> functions which CF allows me to reference as
> request.tapi.html.contains() for instance, but which was producing a
> keyword error with BlueDragon (and of course, you can't use
> html["contains"]() with either of them).
>
> I haven't gotten back to testing BlueDragon since hearing they were
> fixing that... but then I'm also aware now (I wasn't then) that the
> implementation fo list functions in BD is incompatible with the
> implementation of list functions in CF and I haven't gone through the
> code to see all the places where that's going to take a chunk out of
> my hide. I expect it to be frustrating to locate and fix all the
> problems introduced by that.
>
> I'm pretty sure the geolocator was added after the last time I tried
> testing it with BlueDragon... You should be able to disable the
> geoLocator by setting request.tap.local.useGeolocator to false in your
> _appsettings.cfm. And of course, let us know what your results are. :)
>
>
>
> s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
> http://www.fusiontap.com
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
>
>
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[Marlon Moyer]

BTW, I've installed CFMX6.1 so that I can test the framework.
Unfortunately, all I had when I started was CFMX7 and BD6.2, both
which don't like the current beta.


On 8/30/05, Marlon Moyer <marlon.moyer@...> wrote:

> It doesn't look like it'll be easy to get BD up and running.  I've
> disabled the geolocator, but once that was done, it still bombs out.
> It seems there's some difference in how BD interprets the createobject
> command.  It complains when there's more than 2 arguments.
>
> On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:
> > > S.I.D,
> >
> > > Do you know if there are currently any issues with onTap
> > > and BlueDragon?  I seem to be having a problem with the
> > > helloword program.  There's an issue with the geolocator
> > > not initializing I believe.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> >
> > That's not the only issue with BlueDragon unfortunately...
> >
> > I have always hoped to be able to produce a version of the framework
> > that would be compatible with some version of BlueDragon and it
> > continues to become closer to a reality...
> >
> > I was notified recently that the "properly scoped variable names still
> > can't have keywords in them" bug has been fixed or was in the process
> > of being fixed recently... That was my last big problem, as I had some
> > functions which CF allows me to reference as
> > request.tapi.html.contains() for instance, but which was producing a
> > keyword error with BlueDragon (and of course, you can't use
> > html["contains"]() with either of them).
> >
> > I haven't gotten back to testing BlueDragon since hearing they were
> > fixing that... but then I'm also aware now (I wasn't then) that the
> > implementation fo list functions in BD is incompatible with the
> > implementation of list functions in CF and I haven't gone through the
> > code to see all the places where that's going to take a chunk out of
> > my hide. I expect it to be frustrating to locate and fix all the
> > problems introduced by that.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the geolocator was added after the last time I tried
> > testing it with BlueDragon... You should be able to disable the
> > geoLocator by setting request.tap.local.useGeolocator to false in your
> > _appsettings.cfm. And of course, let us know what your results are. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
> > new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
> >
> > add features without fixtures with
> > the onTap open source framework
> >
> > http://www.fusiontap.com
> > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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[S. Isaac Dealey]

> BTW, I've installed CFMX6.1 so that I can test the
> framework. Unfortunately, all I had when I started
> was CFMX7 and BD6.2, both which don't like the
> current beta.

:-/ ... I'll have to clean out my working directory at home... I've
had it all working on CF7 for a while -- haven't tested with CF6.1
much recently, but I do have it installed... it's got to be either a
recent change or some variation in your CF environment I hadn't
antiscipated.

What error are you getting with CF7?



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[S. Isaac Dealey]

> It doesn't look like it'll be easy to get BD up and
> running.  I've
> disabled the geolocator, but once that was done, it still
> bombs out.
> It seems there's some difference in how BD interprets the
> createobject
> command.  It complains when there's more than 2 arguments.

Thanks for the heads up! :)


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[Marlon Moyer]

 Element TAP.APPSTART.TIME is undefined in APPLICATION.
 
The error occurred in C:\inetpub\wwwroot\onTap\Application.cfc: line 119

117 : <cfinclude template="#cd#_pathsettings.cfm">
118 :
119 : <cfset request.tap.appstart.time = application.tap.appstart.time>
120 : </cfif>
121 : </cffunction>


On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:

> > BTW, I've installed CFMX6.1 so that I can test the
> > framework. Unfortunately, all I had when I started
> > was CFMX7 and BD6.2, both which don't like the
> > current beta.
>
> :-/ ... I'll have to clean out my working directory at home... I've
> had it all working on CF7 for a while -- haven't tested with CF6.1
> much recently, but I do have it installed... it's got to be either a
> recent change or some variation in your CF environment I hadn't
> antiscipated.
>
> What error are you getting with CF7?
>
>
>
> s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
> http://www.fusiontap.com
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
>
>
>

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[S. Isaac Dealey]

>  Element TAP.APPSTART.TIME is undefined in APPLICATION.

> The error occurred in
> C:\inetpub\wwwroot\onTap\Application.cfc: line 119

> 117 : <cfinclude template="#cd#_pathsettings.cfm">
> 118 :
> 119 : <cfset request.tap.appstart.time =
> application.tap.appstart.time>
> 120 : </cfif>
> 121 : </cffunction>


Wow... I'm running the same build on my machine, and I thought on the
framework's public site on CF7 with no problem ... or at least without
this problem. :)  But you're the 2nd person today to mention it, so
I'll have to figure out why it's doing that. Tonight before I release
the TinyMCE plugin.


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[S. Isaac Dealey]

I won't get into the details because frankly I'm a bit embarrassed...
It's a really simple bug, but I didn't see it because I apparently
neglected to test a clean copy of the core framework (minus any
plugins) on CF7 after a change I made a couple weeks ago... If I'd
tested it properly, I'd have seen the error then. In any event,
there's a build on the server now that should work on CF7.

I've also set up a batch file on my machine here that allows me to
simultaneously commit my changes to a subversion repository, extract
the latest build from that repository, compress it into a zip archive
and then upload that zip file to my server... So all I have to do is
run the batch and provide a comment for subversion and move on. Makes
life easier for me. :) I still want project directory synchronization
in either Dreamweaver or CFEclipse (the event gateway script I wrote
to fake it apparently causes problems and can't be used).

Marlon: Do you know how to set up an apache server with subversion on
a Windows server? That's my next step is to take what I have (a
subversion server/repository on my local drive) and get it swapped out
for an svn server on the Win2003(?) server where the framework site
will be hosted that will allow me to maintain a separate repository
for each project (in theory I'd like to allow other plugin projects to
host their SVN repositories on that server in the indeterminate
future). I've heard that's possible under Apache, but I've never
installed Apache, Windows or otherwise. If you've got any hints, I'd
be really grateful. I'm expecting the installation to be a challenge.
:)


>  Element TAP.APPSTART.TIME is undefined in APPLICATION.

> The error occurred in
> C:\inetpub\wwwroot\onTap\Application.cfc: line 119

> 117 : <cfinclude template="#cd#_pathsettings.cfm">
> 118 :
> 119 : <cfset request.tap.appstart.time =
> application.tap.appstart.time>
> 120 : </cfif>
> 121 : </cffunction>

> On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:
>> > BTW, I've installed CFMX6.1 so that I can test the
>> > framework. Unfortunately, all I had when I started
>> > was CFMX7 and BD6.2, both which don't like the
>> > current beta.
>>
>> :-/ ... I'll have to clean out my working directory at
>> home... I've
>> had it all working on CF7 for a while -- haven't tested
>> with CF6.1
>> much recently, but I do have it installed... it's got to
>> be either a
>> recent change or some variation in your CF environment I
>> hadn't
>> antiscipated.
>>
>> What error are you getting with CF7?

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[Marlon Moyer]

I've never setup a subversion server via Apache, but I have setup an
internet accessible standalone repository.  The link below got me up
and running in no time at all.

http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/Setting_Up_A_Subversion_Server



On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:

> Marlon: Do you know how to set up an apache server with subversion on
> a Windows server? That's my next step is to take what I have (a
> subversion server/repository on my local drive) and get it swapped out
> for an svn server on the Win2003(?) server where the framework site
> will be hosted that will allow me to maintain a separate repository
> for each project (in theory I'd like to allow other plugin projects to
> host their SVN repositories on that server in the indeterminate
> future). I've heard that's possible under Apache, but I've never
> installed Apache, Windows or otherwise. If you've got any hints, I'd
> be really grateful. I'm expecting the installation to be a challenge.
> :)
>
>
> >  Element TAP.APPSTART.TIME is undefined in APPLICATION.
>
> > The error occurred in
> > C:\inetpub\wwwroot\onTap\Application.cfc: line 119
>
> > 117 :                         <cfinclude template="#cd#_pathsettings.cfm">
> > 118 :
> > 119 :                         <cfset request.tap.appstart.time =
> > application.tap.appstart.time>
> > 120 :                 </cfif>
> > 121 :         </cffunction>
>
>
> > On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:
> >> > BTW, I've installed CFMX6.1 so that I can test the
> >> > framework. Unfortunately, all I had when I started
> >> > was CFMX7 and BD6.2, both which don't like the
> >> > current beta.
> >>
> >> :-/ ... I'll have to clean out my working directory at
> >> home... I've
> >> had it all working on CF7 for a while -- haven't tested
> >> with CF6.1
> >> much recently, but I do have it installed... it's got to
> >> be either a
> >> recent change or some variation in your CF environment I
> >> hadn't
> >> antiscipated.
> >>
> >> What error are you getting with CF7?
>
>
> s. isaac dealey     954.522.6080
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
>
> http://www.fusiontap.com
> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
>
>
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[S. Isaac Dealey]

Aha! You were holding out on me, you ... generous person you. :)

Yeah, this is a new url for me... I was able to get a single
repository working great on my machine at home, but couldn't find any
info in their PDF book about how to set up multiple repositories with
it... In the comments on the blog article I used as a guide to set it
up, someone said you needed Apache for multiple repositories... though
Matt Woodward says it's possible natively (without apache). So that's
my current hurdle... :)

It looks like this url you gave might actually have the info I need
for multiple repositories. :)


> I've never setup a subversion server via Apache, but I
> have setup an
> internet accessible standalone repository.  The link below
> got me up
> and running in no time at all.

> http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/Setting_Up_A_Subversion_
> Server

> On 8/30/05, S. Isaac Dealey <info@...> wrote:

>> Marlon: Do you know how to set up an apache server with
>> subversion on
>> a Windows server? That's my next step is to take what I
>> have (a
>> subversion server/repository on my local drive) and get
>> it swapped out
>> for an svn server on the Win2003(?) server where the
>> framework site
>> will be hosted that will allow me to maintain a separate
>> repository
>> for each project (in theory I'd like to allow other
>> plugin projects to
>> host their SVN repositories on that server in the
>> indeterminate
>> future). I've heard that's possible under Apache, but
>> I've never
>> installed Apache, Windows or otherwise. If you've got any
>> hints, I'd
>> be really grateful. I'm expecting the installation to be
>> a challenge.
>> :)

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