Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

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Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

by Heiner Strauß :: Rate this Message:

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The following reply was made to PR ports/133457; it has been noted by GNATS.

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Subject: Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:30:06 +0000 (GMT)

 I would like to drop this port. With eclipse 3.4.2 I can install this plugi=
 n via the updater.=0A ---=0AHeiner Strau=DF=0Aheiner_ej@...=0A=0A=0A  =
     
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Parent Message unknown Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

by Gerhard Schmidt-5 :: Rate this Message:

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The following reply was made to PR ports/133457; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@...>
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Subject: Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:40:49 +0200

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 Updates via eclipse updater are per user updates (stored in homedir of th=
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 User). The port is per Computer (stored in /usr/local). I maintain some
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 Please keep the Port.
 
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Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

by Heiner Strauß :: Rate this Message:

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Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 07:00 +0000 schrieb Gerhard Schmidt:

> The following reply was made to PR ports/133457; it has been noted by GNATS.
>
> From: Gerhard Schmidt <schmidt@...>
> To: bug-followup@..., heiner_ej@...
> Cc:  
> Subject: Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:40:49 +0200
>
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>  Updates via eclipse updater are per user updates (stored in homedir of th=
>  e
>  User). The port is per Computer (stored in /usr/local). I maintain some
>  Workstations with 200+ users.
>  
>  Please keep the Port.
>  

That's a point. But someone has to keep them in sync with eclipse,
testing and committing etc. If they are kept like now, they are adding
more confusion and no help I think. It took me hours to find out what
was wrong with them and how to fix :) Drop them or maintain. The actual
webtools are 3.0.4 already. Maybe for bigger installs we could have an
eclipse-plugin-mirror port or something, if you want a server centric
install.

Greetings,
Heiner
 


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Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

by Rick C. Petty-5 :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:42:23PM +0200, Heiner Strauß wrote:

> Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 07:00 +0000 schrieb Gerhard Schmidt:
> >
> >  Updates via eclipse updater are per user updates (stored in homedir of th=
> >  e
> >  User). The port is per Computer (stored in /usr/local). I maintain some
> >  Workstations with 200+ users.
> >  
> >  Please keep the Port.
>
> That's a point. But someone has to keep them in sync with eclipse,
> testing and committing etc. If they are kept like now, they are adding
> more confusion and no help I think. It took me hours to find out what
> was wrong with them and how to fix :) Drop them or maintain. The actual
> webtools are 3.0.4 already. Maybe for bigger installs we could have an
> eclipse-plugin-mirror port or something, if you want a server centric
> install.

I disagree with the OP.  You can drop the user-installed plugins directly
into /usr/local/eclipse/ with a modicum of effort.  You can network mount
that directory to avoid updating every machine too.  In fact you can even
have multiple versions of eclipse installed and run side-by-side with a
little effort.  I've played with modifications to my /usr/local/bin/eclipse
script to do just that.

There's absolutely no reason we should have any eclipse-* ports since every
one of them is obtainable through eclipse's plugin architecture and
software updates screens.  It's especially painful if there are multiple
supported eclipse versions in the ports tree.  I hope that the OP's not
suggesting that we create thousands of ports, one for each of Eclipse's
1200+ plugins times each version of Eclipse.  Even if he were to volunteer
to be the maintainer for each, it seems silly to have the plugins as ports.
Although there is some precedence with p5-* ports (instead of using CPAN
exclusively).

In fact I've had troubles with many of the fbsd ports but all of them seem
to behave when I grab them with Eclipse's updater.

-- Rick C. Petty
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Re: ports/133457: [PATCH] java/eclipse-webtools: update to 3.0.3

by Heiner Strauß :: Rate this Message:

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Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 18:46 -0500 schrieb Rick C. Petty:

> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:42:23PM +0200, Heiner Strauß wrote:
> > Am Montag, den 29.06.2009, 07:00 +0000 schrieb Gerhard Schmidt:
> > >
> > >  Updates via eclipse updater are per user updates (stored in homedir of th=
> > >  e
> > >  User). The port is per Computer (stored in /usr/local). I maintain some
> > >  Workstations with 200+ users.
> > >  
> > >  Please keep the Port.
> >
> > That's a point. But someone has to keep them in sync with eclipse,
> > testing and committing etc. If they are kept like now, they are adding
> > more confusion and no help I think. It took me hours to find out what
> > was wrong with them and how to fix :) Drop them or maintain. The actual
> > webtools are 3.0.4 already. Maybe for bigger installs we could have an
> > eclipse-plugin-mirror port or something, if you want a server centric
> > install.
>
> I disagree with the OP.  You can drop the user-installed plugins directly
> into /usr/local/eclipse/ with a modicum of effort.  You can network mount
> that directory to avoid updating every machine too.  In fact you can even
> have multiple versions of eclipse installed and run side-by-side with a
> little effort.  I've played with modifications to my /usr/local/bin/eclipse
> script to do just that.
>
> There's absolutely no reason we should have any eclipse-* ports since every
> one of them is obtainable through eclipse's plugin architecture and
> software updates screens.  It's especially painful if there are multiple
> supported eclipse versions in the ports tree.  I hope that the OP's not
> suggesting that we create thousands of ports, one for each of Eclipse's
> 1200+ plugins times each version of Eclipse.  Even if he were to volunteer
> to be the maintainer for each, it seems silly to have the plugins as ports.
> Although there is some precedence with p5-* ports (instead of using CPAN
> exclusively).
>
> In fact I've had troubles with many of the fbsd ports but all of them seem
> to behave when I grab them with Eclipse's updater.
>
> -- Rick C. Petty

Can't we mark the eclipse-* ports at least as DEPRECATED ? They are
confusing new Eclipse users and wasting a lot of time. Most of them
haven't got a maintainer and are hopelessly outdated.

Greetings,
Heiner


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