Re: psuedo plan for project

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From: "Steve Howerton" <ceyesuma@...>
To: <nbusers@...>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [nbusers] psuedo plan for project


>
> Hello
> I would like some guidance in planning a project if possible.
> I am particularly interested in finding out at what capacity MySQL can be
> ued in netbeans.

It can... Sun just bought MySQL, so there is definitely interest ;)
Whether thru JPA, or plain JDBC it shall connect.
However, you will be using a servlet container like Tomcat and normally they
have a way to do that through JNDI which give you the benefit of a dB pool
as well.

> I ask this because I have a access database designed.  I would like to
> recreate it as effiently as possible in MySQL. What is the best way to do
> this?

Get the mySQl conversion wizard and the ODBC driver.
The ODBC driver will allow you to look at the thing through Access, and that
should give you a warm feeling.
Access is  a crap dB... but it is still the best prototyping tool out there,
and it nice to keep it in the equation.
Make a dB -> Export -> link via ODBC and look at it thru Access... thats
what we do.

> additionally, I am trying to get the proper installation of netbeans6.1 to
> do the above mentioned(if possible).
> I know enough java programing to be dangerous.(armature extraordinaire at
> best).

Suggest you stick to NB 5.5 but its a matter of preference and just
realizing that NB 6 is very new and may have a few gotcha's.
Get your servlet container as well, Tomcat has an easy MS installation, and
its nice to have the standalone version.
You tell NB thru the server manager to use it... then when you make a WEB
project, you choose it.

> I am focusing on developing a web page with the cs3 and the java and the
> MySQL.

No problem... JSP pages are essentially HTML with the option of tags like
JSF, or not... so you can either choose to use plain HTML, which for the
most part is drop into the JSP page... or you can go JSF, or struts, or or
or or

This is why this question is actually loaded... every software co out there
has its own thing.
So if you chat to Sun... its use Glassfish... Jboss will have their thing...
Apache will say Tomcat... others will say use struts... Spring guys will
have another plan... but the thing to get is that Adobe and Sun are not
totally on the same page, they have competitive products.

VWP and JSF is suns way.... JSF in Adobe dreamweaver I think is a third
party addon... Adobe is going to punt Flex, not JSF (I guess), Google will
say use GWT... so you see... different strokes and thats why your brain is
taking strain.

My suggestion... if you using competing products, stick to the common
denominator... plain HTML, with CSS and maybe a little Ajax... else throw
dreamweaver away and use VWP, else use Dreamweaver and just plonk the HTML
into JSP pages.... then learn a little about servlet development, thats the
way we do it.
The reason we stick to HTML and core technologies is so we can mix it up...
One guy on Frontpage, another on Dreamweaver, a masochist doing it by hand,
a graphic artist going from photoshop to imageready to html to jsp... etc
etc
Its a choice you have to make... pick a framework and stick to it, or learn
about the core technologies, like HTML, CSS, Ajax, servlets.
We like the learning route... but whatever floats your boat ;)
But... my suggestion... dont try mix frameworks, you'll go mad.
Struts, plus GWT, plus VWP, plus Flex.... would be somewhat of a challenge
;)

The dB is not a biggy... you either going to go for bean driven dB's (JPA)
stuff, or you going to look at the core technology via JDBC and read the
records and populate the web pages yourself... we like the JDBC route but
JPA has its merits.

If you understand the technology, you can actually keep it very simple...
else you choose a framework and just hope you got it right ;)

Good luck... no body can complain about not having enuf choices in Java ;)
One thing you have got right so far... NB is a great tool.

You cant program well in Java if you dont understand a little about the
industry... and there is always a lock in.
Choose carefully... play a lot.

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