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Re: software grants
by Michael Busch
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I agree with you, Grant.
In the query parser scenario: filling out the software grant and
providing the tar+md5, which was the only part Apache required, was
maybe 5% of all the internal legal and approval work we had to do. Even
if Apache didn't require the grant, we'd still do this kind of internal
work for donations like this one.
I think for people consuming Lucene it is convenient and reassuring to
have software grants in place.
Michael
On 7/11/09 2:49 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> FWIW, I'm not trying to make it harder to donate, but I do want to
> make sure anything we accept is legally correct. Thus, I'd rather err
> on the side of caution. I suspect most people would rather have code
> that has less features and is legally correct versus more features and
> the code be legally in doubt. I'm happy to defer to legal-discuss@,
> board@, incubator@ when it is in question.
>
> -Grant
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
>>
>>>> I personally don't get what all the fuss is about.
>>>
>>> I'm simply trying to avoid having rules I view as too strict (if
>>> interpreted strictly) enshrined as policy.
>>>
>>>> It's not hard to do a grant
>>>
>>> From the contributor side, it can be very, very, hard and can
>>> potentially take a long time. The bigger the company, the harder it
>>> can be.
>>> Many may not pursue a contribution at all it if they thought one would
>>> be required.
>>> We shouldn't make contributions harder unless it's very necessary.
>>
>> When there is doubt as to the legality of the donation, then it isn't
>> a question of harder or easier. It's just a matter of doing it right.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> when it lives somewhere else in public or was developed by a
>>>> company or several individuals, it needs a grant.
>>>
>>> That's way too strict.
>>
>>
>> I don't see how something can be stated as too strict when it states
>> it on the Incubator page which was chartered by the board to put it
>> in place. I'd encourage you to take your questions to legal or
>> incubator when it arises.
>>
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In the query parser scenario: filling out the software grant and
providing the tar+md5, which was the only part Apache required, was
maybe 5% of all the internal legal and approval work we had to do. Even
if Apache didn't require the grant, we'd still do this kind of internal
work for donations like this one.
I think for people consuming Lucene it is convenient and reassuring to
have software grants in place.
Michael
On 7/11/09 2:49 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> FWIW, I'm not trying to make it harder to donate, but I do want to
> make sure anything we accept is legally correct. Thus, I'd rather err
> on the side of caution. I suspect most people would rather have code
> that has less features and is legally correct versus more features and
> the code be legally in doubt. I'm happy to defer to legal-discuss@,
> board@, incubator@ when it is in question.
>
> -Grant
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
>>
>>>> I personally don't get what all the fuss is about.
>>>
>>> I'm simply trying to avoid having rules I view as too strict (if
>>> interpreted strictly) enshrined as policy.
>>>
>>>> It's not hard to do a grant
>>>
>>> From the contributor side, it can be very, very, hard and can
>>> potentially take a long time. The bigger the company, the harder it
>>> can be.
>>> Many may not pursue a contribution at all it if they thought one would
>>> be required.
>>> We shouldn't make contributions harder unless it's very necessary.
>>
>> When there is doubt as to the legality of the donation, then it isn't
>> a question of harder or easier. It's just a matter of doing it right.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> when it lives somewhere else in public or was developed by a
>>>> company or several individuals, it needs a grant.
>>>
>>> That's way too strict.
>>
>>
>> I don't see how something can be stated as too strict when it states
>> it on the Incubator page which was chartered by the board to put it
>> in place. I'd encourage you to take your questions to legal or
>> incubator when it arises.
>>
>>
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