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Re: take KOffice out of Kde?
by Terry-67
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Sebastian Sauer wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 October 2007, Terry wrote:
>
>> A couple of us have started thinking about the need for a strong
>> competitor in the field of office software. KOffice may have the
>> potential. Is there any prospect of it stepping outside of the
>> KUniverse with the right support?
>>
>
> well, from my pov I totaly agree there on anything you wrote in this mail and
> the reply and I would support it in any case (ok, probably cause I am also a
> big xfce-fan and even there I use KOffice and other K-apps since they just
> work best for me and same will be true with Windows).
>
> But I also guess a fork like suggested isn't a solution nor would it provide
> any advantage. <snip>
>
> In my eyes it's not that much a technical question but more a political one.
> So, to have an own Logo+identity would be a start (to bad we even managed to
> remove both things from KOffice a year back) and even to have a forum run by
> ppl outside of the KDE-world would be a great thing. But I guess as soon as
> it's about actions that may result in additional work for developers it
> starts to become very difficult. Also, as pointed out during our last talk
> about that matter, there are also advantages at beeing recognized as "KDE
> Office": we are able to profit a lot by reusing the KDE-infrastructur (svn,
> mailinglist, events, branding, marketing, etc.) and we have what makes KDE
> such strong: integration (things like kiosk, kparts, kio, kshortcut2, etc.).
>
> p.s. that's all my personal opinion and if you read the other replies you may
> note, that each one has another opinion here what may the reason why there
> was just no progress on that matter at all.
>
A fork was not really what I had in mind. I was just thinking of a more
prominent identity. The office should be more than another Kde app.
Marketing by M$ is a major factor in its dominance and the disappearance
of superior providers like Lotus. I hate to see the field now dominated
by the likes of Sun, Novell and IBM. How can anyone get enthusiastic
about them? But people are, because that combination is the visible
alternative to M$ Office.
One answer I got on another forum (not PCLOS) is that KOffice needs to
be cross-platform. The person suffers from cerebral palsy and has to
use Windows at times so that he can take advantage of Dragon Naturally
Speaking.
I've begun toying with the notion of a free site containing a wiki cum
forum, later with blogs as well.
--
Regards, Terry North
Murphy's Law is recursive.
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> On Wednesday 03 October 2007, Terry wrote:
>
>> A couple of us have started thinking about the need for a strong
>> competitor in the field of office software. KOffice may have the
>> potential. Is there any prospect of it stepping outside of the
>> KUniverse with the right support?
>>
>
> well, from my pov I totaly agree there on anything you wrote in this mail and
> the reply and I would support it in any case (ok, probably cause I am also a
> big xfce-fan and even there I use KOffice and other K-apps since they just
> work best for me and same will be true with Windows).
>
> But I also guess a fork like suggested isn't a solution nor would it provide
> any advantage. <snip>
>
> In my eyes it's not that much a technical question but more a political one.
> So, to have an own Logo+identity would be a start (to bad we even managed to
> remove both things from KOffice a year back) and even to have a forum run by
> ppl outside of the KDE-world would be a great thing. But I guess as soon as
> it's about actions that may result in additional work for developers it
> starts to become very difficult. Also, as pointed out during our last talk
> about that matter, there are also advantages at beeing recognized as "KDE
> Office": we are able to profit a lot by reusing the KDE-infrastructur (svn,
> mailinglist, events, branding, marketing, etc.) and we have what makes KDE
> such strong: integration (things like kiosk, kparts, kio, kshortcut2, etc.).
>
> p.s. that's all my personal opinion and if you read the other replies you may
> note, that each one has another opinion here what may the reason why there
> was just no progress on that matter at all.
>
A fork was not really what I had in mind. I was just thinking of a more
prominent identity. The office should be more than another Kde app.
Marketing by M$ is a major factor in its dominance and the disappearance
of superior providers like Lotus. I hate to see the field now dominated
by the likes of Sun, Novell and IBM. How can anyone get enthusiastic
about them? But people are, because that combination is the visible
alternative to M$ Office.
One answer I got on another forum (not PCLOS) is that KOffice needs to
be cross-platform. The person suffers from cerebral palsy and has to
use Windows at times so that he can take advantage of Dragon Naturally
Speaking.
I've begun toying with the notion of a free site containing a wiki cum
forum, later with blogs as well.
--
Regards, Terry North
Murphy's Law is recursive.
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