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Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
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You should take a serious look at seam (at least read all the documentation if you need to change your codebase) before taking another framework on top of jsf.
http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/
The framework is very powerfull (but complicated, and you should do perf. benchmarks).
To use it with facelets / ajax4jsf / richfaces.
conversation management
get functionnality and page actions
remoting (proprietary protocol)
powerfull navigation with exception handling
good jpa (urgh... hibernate) integration
validation with Hibernate Validator (this is a goog one !)
security (authentication / authz)
spring integration if need be
and much more...
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De : Cyril Bouteille <cyril@...>
À : Greg Reddin <gredbug@...>
Cc : "user@..." <user@...>
Envoyé le : Mardi, 28 Avril 2009, 23h31mn 13s
Objet : Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to some other framework that's still actively maintained.
Greg Reddin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille <cyril@...> wrote:
>
>> This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
>> migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
>>
>
> Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
> and/or ajax4jsf.
>
> But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
> code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
> Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
> be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
> further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
> elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
> Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/
The framework is very powerfull (but complicated, and you should do perf. benchmarks).
To use it with facelets / ajax4jsf / richfaces.
conversation management
get functionnality and page actions
remoting (proprietary protocol)
powerfull navigation with exception handling
good jpa (urgh... hibernate) integration
validation with Hibernate Validator (this is a goog one !)
security (authentication / authz)
spring integration if need be
and much more...
________________________________
De : Cyril Bouteille <cyril@...>
À : Greg Reddin <gredbug@...>
Cc : "user@..." <user@...>
Envoyé le : Mardi, 28 Avril 2009, 23h31mn 13s
Objet : Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to some other framework that's still actively maintained.
Greg Reddin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille <cyril@...> wrote:
>
>> This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
>> migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
>>
>
> Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
> and/or ajax4jsf.
>
> But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
> code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
> Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
> be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
> further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
> elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
> Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
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