Re Comments

[Per-Olof Hermansson]

I would like my Radiant installation to have comments.

I see that there is an extension for comments.

Is this the way to go? Or is it better to set up a forum on the side?
For example El Derado

Best regards,

Per-Olof Hermansson
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[Per-Olof Hermansson]

Per-olof Hermansson wrote:
> I would like my Radiant installation to have comments.
>
> I see that there is an extension for comments.
>
> Is this the way to go? Or is it better to set up a forum on the side?
> For example El Derado

I see that my radiant installation is version 5.2

I understand that I need to upgrade. My installation is with
www.site5.com and it is a Unix-machine, which I am not so used to.

Is this easy? (to upgrade...)

Thanks!!

Per-Olof

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[Mohit Sindhwani-3]

Per-olof Hermansson wrote:

> Per-olof Hermansson wrote:
>  
>> I would like my Radiant installation to have comments.
>>
>> I see that there is an extension for comments.
>>
>> Is this the way to go? Or is it better to set up a forum on the side?
>> For example El Derado
>>    
>
> I see that my radiant installation is version 5.2
>
> I understand that I need to upgrade. My installation is with
> www.site5.com and it is a Unix-machine, which I am not so used to.
>
> Is this easy? (to upgrade...)
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Per-Olof
>  

I think you can freeze edge - you'll be able to find the instructions on
the Radiant CMS documentation site (or just do a search for radiant
freeze edge).

That said, in response to your earlier question, in my mind, there's a
difference between comments and a forum.  It could be said that a
commenting module is essentially a forum with the first comments being a
blog post or an article or something.  In that sense, one could just use
a forum.

My sites http://onghu.com/te and http://openutk.org are actually
engineering community resources and therefore, I'm interested in
exploring both the avenues that you mention:
(1) Integration of comments
(2) Integration of a forum
...and I'm even keen on seeing if there's a good way to:
1.  Integrate another Rails application (I need to see the plugins that
are there) and to
2. Use Radiant as a backend to provide content management in a
role-based access way

Long nights ahead...

Cheers,
Mohit.
2/10/2008 | 4:19 PM.


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[jaaronfarr]

Per-olof Hermansson <per-olof.hermansson@...> writes:

> I would like my Radiant installation to have comments.
>
> I see that there is an extension for comments.

It does work, but there are some caveats:

 - It uses Akismet for spam detection.  If you don't want to use
   Akismet, you have to write your own code.

 - Email addresses are required but it doesn't do error handling
   cleanly.

In fact, this second issue is a little tricky.  I'll post an email
about it.

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[jaaronfarr]

Mohit Sindhwani <tech@...> writes:

> My sites http://onghu.com/te and http://openutk.org are actually
> engineering community resources and therefore, I'm interested in
> exploring both the avenues that you mention:
> (1) Integration of comments
> (2) Integration of a forum
> ...and I'm even keen on seeing if there's a good way to:
> 1.  Integrate another Rails application (I need to see the plugins that
> are there) and to
> 2. Use Radiant as a backend to provide content management in a
> role-based access way

If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast:

  http://beast.caboo.se/

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[Casper Fabricius]

> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast

I'll second that recommendation. I've integrated Beast as an extension  
to a Radiant site without too much trouble. The Beast code is very  
clean. Unfortunately my "Beast extension" is not ready to be released  
for the greater good anytime soon, but I'd like to at some point.


On 11/02/2008, at 6:43, J Aaron Farr wrote:

> Mohit Sindhwani <tech@...> writes:
>
>> My sites http://onghu.com/te and http://openutk.org are actually
>> engineering community resources and therefore, I'm interested in
>> exploring both the avenues that you mention:
>> (1) Integration of comments
>> (2) Integration of a forum
>> ...and I'm even keen on seeing if there's a good way to:
>> 1.  Integrate another Rails application (I need to see the plugins  
>> that
>> are there) and to
>> 2. Use Radiant as a backend to provide content management in a
>> role-based access way
>
> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast:
>
>  http://beast.caboo.se/
>
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[jaaronfarr]

Casper Fabricius <me@...> writes:

>> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast
>
> I'll second that recommendation. I've integrated Beast as an extension  
> to a Radiant site without too much trouble. The Beast code is very  
> clean. Unfortunately my "Beast extension" is not ready to be released  
> for the greater good anytime soon, but I'd like to at some point.

That would be cool to see.  I've been debating doing that versus
fixing up the Comments extension for my needs.

How tightly do you have them integrated?  Does creating a new page in
Radiant create a forum post?  What about the two user models?

I wouldn't mind using it for comments on my sites, but I don't want to
force people to create an account.

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[Casper Fabricius]

> That would be cool to see.

The site is at http://www.nrgi-innovation.dk/forums - it is in Danish,  
but it'll give you an idea. The other pages at that site are all  
served as pure Radiant pages.


>> Does creating a new page in
>> Radiant create a forum post?


No. Beast forums, topics and posts are separate models completely  
unrelated to Radiant pages. I use it as a real forum, not for  
commenting pages.


> What about the two user models?


I've merged them. It wasn't much more than adding extra fields to the  
existing Radiant users table.



On 11/02/2008, at 11:09, J Aaron Farr wrote:

>
> Casper Fabricius <me@...> writes:
>
>>> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast
>>
>> I'll second that recommendation. I've integrated Beast as an  
>> extension
>> to a Radiant site without too much trouble. The Beast code is very
>> clean. Unfortunately my "Beast extension" is not ready to be released
>> for the greater good anytime soon, but I'd like to at some point.
>
> That would be cool to see.  I've been debating doing that versus
> fixing up the Comments extension for my needs.
>
> How tightly do you have them integrated?  Does creating a new page in
> Radiant create a forum post?  What about the two user models?
>
> I wouldn't mind using it for comments on my sites, but I don't want to
> force people to create an account.
>
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[Mohit Sindhwani-3]

Casper Fabricius wrote:
>> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast
>>    
>
> I'll second that recommendation. I've integrated Beast as an extension  
> to a Radiant site without too much trouble. The Beast code is very  
> clean. Unfortunately my "Beast extension" is not ready to be released  
> for the greater good anytime soon, but I'd like to at some point.
>  

I wish.. I request.. I beg.. Beast looks nice.. If you feel it's not
ready for release, can you 'release' it privately?  Or, a few pointers
to get us started?  The other recent option seems to be El Dorado.  Not
sure about it, either.

Cheers,
Mohit.
2/11/2008 | 10:53 PM.


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[nn-8]

On Feb 11, 2008 6:43 AM, J Aaron Farr <farra@...> wrote:
> If you're looking for a rails based forum, check out Beast:
>
>  http://beast.caboo.se/

The original Beast seems not to be maintained any more. Rick Olson is
taking a step in another direction with "Altered Beast". More details
at:

  http://beast.caboo.se/forums/1/topics/4650

There is Savage Beast 2

  http://code.google.com/p/savage-beast-2/

with the goal of being a pluginized Beast. Also, El Dorado

  http://code.google.com/p/eldorado/

which started somewhat of a phpBB clone.

I have no idea how hard/easy is to integrate any of these into Radiant.
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