Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
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Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Denis Forveille
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(Second try..)
Hello, I don't know if moderators and the list manager(s) are aware of this, but this is a nightmare to post a message to the mailing list. Almost none of my message have reached the list on the first post, and some never reach it after the third 3 tentative. For those I gave up (!) I understand that this list has to be moderated and that moderators receives tons of spam and it's hard to filter messages, that people are busy doing more important things etc etc You can not image the amount of frustration this generates for a newly committer like me that need, from time to time, advises on how to act regarding the code before committing and potentially break things, or simply ask a questions that are obviously not of the domain of the general forum (Like fixing the build or the WiKi). I don't know if they are other means to ask dev-related questions, but as-is, the seam-dev list is not an answer, at least for "external" people like me as most of the message never reach the list. I hope this message will reach people that can act on this. If not ill re- post it 3 times, no more. Thanks for your time. Denis Forveille _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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Re: Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Shane Bryzak-4
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You got through on the first try Denis, you don't need to keep reposting
this. On 25/08/09 08:56, denis.forveille@... wrote: > (Second try..) > > Hello, > > I don't know if moderators and the list manager(s) are aware of this, > but this is a nightmare to post a message to the mailing list. > > Almost none of my message have reached the list on the first post, and > some never reach it after the third 3 tentative. For those I gave up (!) > > I understand that this list has to be moderated and that moderators > receives tons of spam and it's hard to filter messages, that people are > busy doing more important things etc etc > > You can not image the amount of frustration this generates for a newly > committer like me that need, from time to time, advises on how to act > regarding the code before committing and potentially break things, or > simply ask a questions that are obviously not of the domain of the > general forum (Like fixing the build or the WiKi). > > I don't know if they are other means to ask dev-related questions, but > as-is, the seam-dev list is not an answer, at least for "external" > people like me as most of the message never reach the list. > > I hope this message will reach people that can act on this. If not ill > re- post it 3 times, no more. > > Thanks for your time. > > Denis Forveille > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev@... > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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Re: Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Pete Muir-2
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It's worth pointing out, because of the moderation, you may see a
delay in your post appearing, as a moderator is not available at that time. If your message appears to have been overlooked, please contact me, Shane or Norman. If you think your message has not made it through (like Denis did here) - check http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/seam-dev/ and you can see the archive. On 25 Aug 2009, at 00:12, Shane Bryzak wrote: > You got through on the first try Denis, you don't need to keep > reposting > this. > > On 25/08/09 08:56, denis.forveille@... wrote: >> (Second try..) >> >> Hello, >> >> I don't know if moderators and the list manager(s) are aware of this, >> but this is a nightmare to post a message to the mailing list. >> >> Almost none of my message have reached the list on the first post, >> and >> some never reach it after the third 3 tentative. For those I gave >> up (!) >> >> I understand that this list has to be moderated and that moderators >> receives tons of spam and it's hard to filter messages, that people >> are >> busy doing more important things etc etc >> >> You can not image the amount of frustration this generates for a >> newly >> committer like me that need, from time to time, advises on how to act >> regarding the code before committing and potentially break things, or >> simply ask a questions that are obviously not of the domain of the >> general forum (Like fixing the build or the WiKi). >> >> I don't know if they are other means to ask dev-related questions, >> but >> as-is, the seam-dev list is not an answer, at least for "external" >> people like me as most of the message never reach the list. >> >> I hope this message will reach people that can act on this. If not >> ill >> re- post it 3 times, no more. >> >> Thanks for your time. >> >> Denis Forveille >> _______________________________________________ >> seam-dev mailing list >> seam-dev@... >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev@... > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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Re: Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Dan Allen (mojavelinux)
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So to clarify, if I new person posts to the list (and what they post is legitimate), no future messages should be moderated, right? So Denis should never see a delay again.
-Dan On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir@...> wrote: It's worth pointing out, because of the moderation, you may see a -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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Re: Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Pete Muir-2
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Yes, assuming that the person who moderates the post checks accept for
both this message, and one of "clear this members moderate flag" or "add this sender to the accepts filter". And, of course, this is all based on the address you use to post. On 25 Aug 2009, at 22:19, Dan Allen wrote: > So to clarify, if I new person posts to the list (and what they post > is legitimate), no future messages should be moderated, right? So > Denis should never see a delay again. > > -Dan > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir@...> wrote: > It's worth pointing out, because of the moderation, you may see a > delay in your post appearing, as a moderator is not available at that > time. > > If your message appears to have been overlooked, please contact me, > Shane or Norman. > > If you think your message has not made it through (like Denis did > here) - check http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/seam-dev/ and you can > see the archive. > > On 25 Aug 2009, at 00:12, Shane Bryzak wrote: > > > You got through on the first try Denis, you don't need to keep > > reposting > > this. > > > > On 25/08/09 08:56, denis.forveille@... wrote: > >> (Second try..) > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I don't know if moderators and the list manager(s) are aware of > this, > >> but this is a nightmare to post a message to the mailing list. > >> > >> Almost none of my message have reached the list on the first post, > >> and > >> some never reach it after the third 3 tentative. For those I gave > >> up (!) > >> > >> I understand that this list has to be moderated and that moderators > >> receives tons of spam and it's hard to filter messages, that people > >> are > >> busy doing more important things etc etc > >> > >> You can not image the amount of frustration this generates for a > >> newly > >> committer like me that need, from time to time, advises on how to > act > >> regarding the code before committing and potentially break > things, or > >> simply ask a questions that are obviously not of the domain of the > >> general forum (Like fixing the build or the WiKi). > >> > >> I don't know if they are other means to ask dev-related questions, > >> but > >> as-is, the seam-dev list is not an answer, at least for "external" > >> people like me as most of the message never reach the list. > >> > >> I hope this message will reach people that can act on this. If not > >> ill > >> re- post it 3 times, no more. > >> > >> Thanks for your time. > >> > >> Denis Forveille > >> _______________________________________________ > >> seam-dev mailing list > >> seam-dev@... > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev@... > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev@... > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > > -- > Dan Allen > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > Registered Linux User #231597 > > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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Re: Reaching the seam-dev mailing list is a nightmare (Second try)
by Dan Allen (mojavelinux)
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir@...> wrote: Yes, assuming that the person who moderates the post checks accept for both this message, and one of "clear this members moderate flag" or "add this sender to the accepts filter". And, of course, this is all based on the address you use to post. Excellent. -Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev@... https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev |
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