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Red5 on Google App Engine
by donnacha
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Google's App Engine was introduced at Google's I/O event in May last
year as a Python-only app hosting environment, but it was stated that other languages would follow. At this year's I/O, May 27-28th, it is widely expected that Java support will be added to GAE: http://gigaom.com/2009/03/26/java-coming-soon-to-googles-app-engine/ This will be an adapted version of Java and modifications would be required to port Red5. Is that something that the Red5 community would be interested in? Personally, I think Red5 on GAE could be huge. It is a more locked-down environment than, say, Amazon EC2, but the advantage is that it is much easier to set up, it scales with much finer granularity, saving money, and it does so automatically, making planning much easier and saving downtime. GAE gives a generous free daily allowance of 10 gigabytes in, 10 gigabytes out and 46 hours of CPU time enough to keep most small projects going until they take off. After that daily allowance, cost per gigabyte is $0.10 in, $0.12 out and CPU time is $0.10 per CPU hour. Storage is $0.15 per month. Even without the free allowance, equivalent to $6.80 per day, Google seems much cheaper than Amazon for bandwidth out and pretty much the same for everything else. I have no idea how an of GAE CPU time compares to Amazon's $0.10 Small instance, but I'm guessing that it will be beefier. Red5 would be one of the most interesting things happened on the newly Java-energized GAE, it would bring a draw a lot of interest and, hopefully, new developers to Red5. It won't be happening for at least 2 months but it would be interesting to hear opinions on this. Donnacha _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by donnacha
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No opinions on the likelihood of Java being added to the Google App
Engine next month? No thoughts on the usefulness of adapting Red5 to a hosted Java environment? On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: > Google's App Engine was introduced at Google's I/O event in May last > year as a Python-only app hosting environment, but it was stated that > other languages would follow. > > At this year's I/O, May 27-28th, it is widely expected that Java > support will be added to GAE: > > http://gigaom.com/2009/03/26/java-coming-soon-to-googles-app-engine/ > > > This will be an adapted version of Java and modifications would be > required to port Red5. Is that something that the Red5 community > would be interested in? > > Personally, I think Red5 on GAE could be huge. It is a more > locked-down environment than, say, Amazon EC2, but the advantage is > that it is much easier to set up, it scales with much finer > granularity, saving money, and it does so automatically, making > planning much easier and saving downtime. > > GAE gives a generous free daily allowance of 10 gigabytes in, 10 > gigabytes out and 46 hours of CPU time enough to keep most small > projects going until they take off. After that daily allowance, cost > per gigabyte is $0.10 in, $0.12 out and CPU time is $0.10 per CPU > hour. Storage is $0.15 per month. > > Even without the free allowance, equivalent to $6.80 per day, Google > seems much cheaper than Amazon for bandwidth out and pretty much the > same for everything else. I have no idea how an of GAE CPU time > compares to Amazon's $0.10 Small instance, but I'm guessing that it > will be beefier. > > Red5 would be one of the most interesting things happened on the newly > Java-energized GAE, it would bring a draw a lot of interest and, > hopefully, new developers to Red5. > > It won't be happening for at least 2 months but it would be > interesting to hear opinions on this. > > Donnacha > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Ilya Shinkarenko
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Certainly interesting. Gonna keep my eye on that.
Anyone has ideas about what exactly is gonna be (not) supported by GAE JRE? 2009/4/6 Donnacha <donnacha@...> No opinions on the likelihood of Java being added to the Google App _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Nicolas Brousse
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They released the SDK, but according to their docs I don't see how you
can have red5 working there : http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/overview.html On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> wrote: > Certainly interesting. Gonna keep my eye on that. > Anyone has ideas about what exactly is gonna be (not) supported by GAE JRE? > > 2009/4/6 Donnacha <donnacha@...> >> >> No opinions on the likelihood of Java being added to the Google App >> Engine next month? >> >> No thoughts on the usefulness of adapting Red5 to a hosted Java >> environment? >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >> > Google's App Engine was introduced at Google's I/O event in May last >> > year as a Python-only app hosting environment, but it was stated that >> > other languages would follow. >> > >> > At this year's I/O, May 27-28th, it is widely expected that Java >> > support will be added to GAE: >> > >> > http://gigaom.com/2009/03/26/java-coming-soon-to-googles-app-engine/ >> > >> > >> > This will be an adapted version of Java and modifications would be >> > required to port Red5. Is that something that the Red5 community >> > would be interested in? >> > >> > Personally, I think Red5 on GAE could be huge. It is a more >> > locked-down environment than, say, Amazon EC2, but the advantage is >> > that it is much easier to set up, it scales with much finer >> > granularity, saving money, and it does so automatically, making >> > planning much easier and saving downtime. >> > >> > GAE gives a generous free daily allowance of 10 gigabytes in, 10 >> > gigabytes out and 46 hours of CPU time enough to keep most small >> > projects going until they take off. After that daily allowance, cost >> > per gigabyte is $0.10 in, $0.12 out and CPU time is $0.10 per CPU >> > hour. Storage is $0.15 per month. >> > >> > Even without the free allowance, equivalent to $6.80 per day, Google >> > seems much cheaper than Amazon for bandwidth out and pretty much the >> > same for everything else. I have no idea how an of GAE CPU time >> > compares to Amazon's $0.10 Small instance, but I'm guessing that it >> > will be beefier. >> > >> > Red5 would be one of the most interesting things happened on the newly >> > Java-energized GAE, it would bring a draw a lot of interest and, >> > hopefully, new developers to Red5. >> > >> > It won't be happening for at least 2 months but it would be >> > interesting to hear opinions on this. >> > >> > Donnacha >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > Red5@... > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by donnacha
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Well, that is their Python environment, we won't know what their Java
environment will look like until Google's I/O event in May. I suspect the Java environment will be somewhat less nailed-down than the Python environment because, obviously, in introducing Java, they are hoping to attract both the talents and the existing code of Java developers. As such, I expect they will make porting as easy as possible BUT, the big question, is Red5 massively complex compared to other Java apps? On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Nicolas Brousse <nicolas@...> wrote: > They released the SDK, but according to their docs I don't see how you > can have red5 working there : > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/overview.html > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> wrote: >> Certainly interesting. Gonna keep my eye on that. >> Anyone has ideas about what exactly is gonna be (not) supported by GAE JRE? >> >> 2009/4/6 Donnacha <donnacha@...> >>> >>> No opinions on the likelihood of Java being added to the Google App >>> Engine next month? >>> >>> No thoughts on the usefulness of adapting Red5 to a hosted Java >>> environment? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >>> > Google's App Engine was introduced at Google's I/O event in May last >>> > year as a Python-only app hosting environment, but it was stated that >>> > other languages would follow. >>> > >>> > At this year's I/O, May 27-28th, it is widely expected that Java >>> > support will be added to GAE: >>> > >>> > http://gigaom.com/2009/03/26/java-coming-soon-to-googles-app-engine/ >>> > >>> > >>> > This will be an adapted version of Java and modifications would be >>> > required to port Red5. Is that something that the Red5 community >>> > would be interested in? >>> > >>> > Personally, I think Red5 on GAE could be huge. It is a more >>> > locked-down environment than, say, Amazon EC2, but the advantage is >>> > that it is much easier to set up, it scales with much finer >>> > granularity, saving money, and it does so automatically, making >>> > planning much easier and saving downtime. >>> > >>> > GAE gives a generous free daily allowance of 10 gigabytes in, 10 >>> > gigabytes out and 46 hours of CPU time enough to keep most small >>> > projects going until they take off. After that daily allowance, cost >>> > per gigabyte is $0.10 in, $0.12 out and CPU time is $0.10 per CPU >>> > hour. Storage is $0.15 per month. >>> > >>> > Even without the free allowance, equivalent to $6.80 per day, Google >>> > seems much cheaper than Amazon for bandwidth out and pretty much the >>> > same for everything else. I have no idea how an of GAE CPU time >>> > compares to Amazon's $0.10 Small instance, but I'm guessing that it >>> > will be beefier. >>> > >>> > Red5 would be one of the most interesting things happened on the newly >>> > Java-energized GAE, it would bring a draw a lot of interest and, >>> > hopefully, new developers to Red5. >>> > >>> > It won't be happening for at least 2 months but it would be >>> > interesting to hear opinions on this. >>> > >>> > Donnacha >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Red5 mailing list >>> Red5@... >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > Red5@... > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by donnacha
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Oh, actually, it has already been officially announced, last night:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-features-and-early-look-at-java-for.html ... along with a bunch of videos explaining everything. Please take a look and let's discuss whether it might be possible to port Red5 onto GAE. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: > Well, that is their Python environment, we won't know what their Java > environment will look like until Google's I/O event in May. > > I suspect the Java environment will be somewhat less nailed-down than > the Python environment because, obviously, in introducing Java, they > are hoping to attract both the talents and the existing code of Java > developers. As such, I expect they will make porting as easy as > possible BUT, the big question, is Red5 massively complex compared to > other Java apps? > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Nicolas Brousse <nicolas@...> wrote: >> They released the SDK, but according to their docs I don't see how you >> can have red5 working there : >> >> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox >> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/overview.html >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> wrote: >>> Certainly interesting. Gonna keep my eye on that. >>> Anyone has ideas about what exactly is gonna be (not) supported by GAE JRE? >>> >>> 2009/4/6 Donnacha <donnacha@...> >>>> >>>> No opinions on the likelihood of Java being added to the Google App >>>> Engine next month? >>>> >>>> No thoughts on the usefulness of adapting Red5 to a hosted Java >>>> environment? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >>>> > Google's App Engine was introduced at Google's I/O event in May last >>>> > year as a Python-only app hosting environment, but it was stated that >>>> > other languages would follow. >>>> > >>>> > At this year's I/O, May 27-28th, it is widely expected that Java >>>> > support will be added to GAE: >>>> > >>>> > http://gigaom.com/2009/03/26/java-coming-soon-to-googles-app-engine/ >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > This will be an adapted version of Java and modifications would be >>>> > required to port Red5. Is that something that the Red5 community >>>> > would be interested in? >>>> > >>>> > Personally, I think Red5 on GAE could be huge. It is a more >>>> > locked-down environment than, say, Amazon EC2, but the advantage is >>>> > that it is much easier to set up, it scales with much finer >>>> > granularity, saving money, and it does so automatically, making >>>> > planning much easier and saving downtime. >>>> > >>>> > GAE gives a generous free daily allowance of 10 gigabytes in, 10 >>>> > gigabytes out and 46 hours of CPU time enough to keep most small >>>> > projects going until they take off. After that daily allowance, cost >>>> > per gigabyte is $0.10 in, $0.12 out and CPU time is $0.10 per CPU >>>> > hour. Storage is $0.15 per month. >>>> > >>>> > Even without the free allowance, equivalent to $6.80 per day, Google >>>> > seems much cheaper than Amazon for bandwidth out and pretty much the >>>> > same for everything else. I have no idea how an of GAE CPU time >>>> > compares to Amazon's $0.10 Small instance, but I'm guessing that it >>>> > will be beefier. >>>> > >>>> > Red5 would be one of the most interesting things happened on the newly >>>> > Java-energized GAE, it would bring a draw a lot of interest and, >>>> > hopefully, new developers to Red5. >>>> > >>>> > It won't be happening for at least 2 months but it would be >>>> > interesting to hear opinions on this. >>>> > >>>> > Donnacha >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Red5 mailing list >>>> Red5@... >>>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Red5 mailing list >>> Red5@... >>> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >> > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Dan Rossi-5
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On 08/04/2009, at 10:07 PM, Donnacha wrote: > Oh, actually, it has already been officially announced, last night: > > http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-features-and-early-look-at-java-for.html > > ... along with a bunch of videos explaining everything. > > Please take a look and let's discuss whether it might be possible to > port Red5 onto GAE. > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html I could take a look at it if it means I could possibly test clustering without the expense required with amazon. _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Steven Gong
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I took a look at the GAE intro. It seems we only needs to provide appengine-web.xml to the WAR deployment to bind it to GAE.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Daniel Rossi <electroteque@...> wrote:
-- Best Regards Steven Gong InfraRed5 Red5 Consultant: http://www.infrared5.com, steven@... Red5 Developer: http://osflash.org/red5, http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/~steven/Home Javaflash Project Founder and Maintainer: http://osflash.org/javaflash _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Ilya Shinkarenko
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If only GAE would at least support java.net.* or java.io.*, what is hardly believable, I guess.
2009/4/8 Steven Gong <steven.gong@...> I took a look at the GAE intro. It seems we only needs to provide appengine-web.xml to the WAR deployment to bind it to GAE. _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Nicolas Brousse
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Guys, you should really look at their doc. You couldn't have any
socket manipulation on google app, again look at their sandbox : http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Steven Gong <steven.gong@...> wrote: > I took a look at the GAE intro. It seems we only needs to provide > appengine-web.xml to the WAR deployment to bind it to GAE. > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Daniel Rossi <electroteque@...> wrote: >> >> On 08/04/2009, at 10:07 PM, Donnacha wrote: >> >>> Oh, actually, it has already been officially announced, last night: >>> >>> >>> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-features-and-early-look-at-java-for.html >>> >>> ... along with a bunch of videos explaining everything. >>> >>> Please take a look and let's discuss whether it might be possible to >>> port Red5 onto GAE. >>> >> >> >> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html >> >> I could take a look at it if it means I could possibly test clustering >> without the expense required with amazon. >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > > > -- > Best Regards > Steven Gong > > InfraRed5 Red5 Consultant: http://www.infrared5.com, steven@... > > Red5 Developer: http://osflash.org/red5, > http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/~steven/Home > > Javaflash Project Founder and Maintainer: http://osflash.org/javaflash > > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > Red5@... > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Steven Gong
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Hmm, that's a problem... Really big limitation.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Nicolas Brousse <nicolas@...> wrote: Guys, you should really look at their doc. You couldn't have any -- Best Regards Steven Gong InfraRed5 Red5 Consultant: http://www.infrared5.com, steven@... Red5 Developer: http://osflash.org/red5, http://jira.red5.org/confluence/display/~steven/Home Javaflash Project Founder and Maintainer: http://osflash.org/javaflash _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Dominick Accattato
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Just took a look and I agree with Nicolas! The sandbox will not allow for sockets..... thus no Red5!!!!
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Steven Gong <steven.gong@...> wrote: Hmm, that's a problem... Really big limitation. _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Dan Rossi-5
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Thats really stupid , what java app doesnt use socket communication.
On 09/04/2009, at 2:43 AM, Steven Gong wrote: Hmm, that's a problem... Really big limitation. _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Ilya Shinkarenko
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Well, if you use servlets, you are abstracted from sockets by the means of container.
2009/4/9 Daniel Rossi <electroteque@...>
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by donnacha
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So does that mean there's a way for Red5 to use servlets rather than sockets?
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> wrote: > Well, if you use servlets, you are abstracted from sockets by the means of > container. > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Dominick Accattato
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we do have http tunneling so that might work... but at that point you'd have to turn a lot of other functionality off and at that point your better off using Amazon for your cloud implementation.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: So does that mean there's a way for Red5 to use servlets rather than sockets? _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
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Dominick, do you think it would still be possible, even using http
tunneling as you suggest, to record from the user's webcam and store the video to replay later? I have a very specific, guestbook-style functionality in mind. Donnacha On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Dominick Accattato <daccattato@...> wrote: > we do have http tunneling so that might work... but at that point you'd have > to turn a lot of other functionality off and at that point your better off > using Amazon for your cloud implementation. > > Dominick Accattato > CTO & Senior Engineer > www.infrared5.com > 315.717.2818 > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >> >> So does that mean there's a way for Red5 to use servlets rather than >> sockets? >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> >> wrote: >> > Well, if you use servlets, you are abstracted from sockets by the means >> > of >> > container. >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > Red5@... > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Dominick Accattato
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http tunneling is implemented with a servlet so I would think it is possible. However, I would still just opt for a solution that allows for all of Red5 to work.
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by Nicolas Brousse
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There is no filesystem access. Google App is designed for simple http
web apps. I really don't see any good reason to try to run Red5 on it so far. There is a lot of other cloud solution without such restrictions. "An application cannot write to the file system. An app can read files, but only files uploaded with the application code. The app must use the App Engine datastore, memcache or other services for all data that persists between requests." Btw, Red5 use threads : "An App Engine application cannot (...) spawn a sub-process or thread. A web request to an application must be handled in a single process within a few seconds. Processes that take a very long time to respond are terminated to avoid overloading the web server." http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/runtime.html#The_Sandbox On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dominick Accattato <daccattato@...> wrote: > http tunneling is implemented with a servlet so I would think it is > possible. However, I would still just opt for a solution that allows for > all of Red5 to work. > > Dominick Accattato > CTO & Senior Engineer > www.infrared5.com > 315.717.2818 > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >> >> Dominick, do you think it would still be possible, even using http >> tunneling as you suggest, to record from the user's webcam and store >> the video to replay later? >> >> I have a very specific, guestbook-style functionality in mind. >> >> Donnacha >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Dominick Accattato <daccattato@...> >> wrote: >> > we do have http tunneling so that might work... but at that point you'd >> > have >> > to turn a lot of other functionality off and at that point your better >> > off >> > using Amazon for your cloud implementation. >> > >> > Dominick Accattato >> > CTO & Senior Engineer >> > www.infrared5.com >> > 315.717.2818 >> > >> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Donnacha <donnacha@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> So does that mean there's a way for Red5 to use servlets rather than >> >> sockets? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Ilya Shinkarenko <shinych@...> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Well, if you use servlets, you are abstracted from sockets by the >> >> > means >> >> > of >> >> > container. >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Red5 mailing list >> >> Red5@... >> >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Red5 mailing list >> > Red5@... >> > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Red5 mailing list >> Red5@... >> http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Red5 mailing list > Red5@... > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org > > _______________________________________________ Red5 mailing list Red5@... http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/red5_osflash.org |
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Re: Red5 on Google App Engine
by rfkrocktk
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So basically, google spent all of this money, time, and effort to support something that barely allows filesystem access, and prohibits the creations of thread pools, let alone separate threads? Wow. They probably had to rewrite some open-source JVM to do that.. what a waste of time :-|
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