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Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by korchleader :: Rate this Message:

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Am I the only one who struggles managing the Reported/Presented check-boxes for merit badges, ranks, and awards?

If I create a Court of Honor Report and say yes when prompted regarding the Reported/Presented flags, it always checks BOTH of them, but that's not how things work ... at least for me.

First I generate the Court of Honor reports. This prints the Court of Honor list (for calling up Scouts), the Awards Summary (the Scout Store shopping list), and the Unit Advancement Report (for submission to the Scout Office).

Second, after I've actually purchased the badges and turned in the advancement report I go back and regenerate the reports. At that point I want to check ONLY the Reported check boxes - and not the Presented check boxes. The only way I can figure out how to do this one Scout at a time. It is very slow and moderately painful. Sigh. It would be nice if there was a view that would list out the names and allow me to check those that were reported - or all of them at once - which is what I'd usually do.

Third, after the badges have been presented at a troop meeting (we try not to wait until the Court of Honor), I check off the Court of Honor list items that are actually presented and use that to go through and check off the Presented check boxes.  Just like with the previous paragraph, I wish TroopMaster would list the badges that have been Reported but not Presented, and then allow me to check off the appropriate badges as having been presented - with a "check all" option. Typically I'd check most, but not all of them (for Scouts who weren't at the that troop meeting).

Am I the only one who goes through this process and wishes TM didn't think that all badges are reported and presented at the very same time? Maybe I just need to tell TM they've all been presented and then use the paper Court of Honor list to track which have been presented and which have not been presented.


Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Greg Marr :: Rate this Message:

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At 09:12 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:

>First I generate the Court of Honor reports. This prints the Court
>of Honor list (for calling up Scouts), the Awards Summary (the Scout
>Store shopping list), and the Unit Advancement Report (for
>submission to the Scout Office).
>
>Am I the only one who goes through this process and wishes TM didn't
>think that all badges are reported and presented at the very same
>time? Maybe I just need to tell TM they've all been presented and
>then use the paper Court of Honor list to track which have been
>presented and which have not been presented.

If you do the advancement report, it checks the Reported box.  If you
do the Court of Honor report, it checks the Presented box.  I do the
two separately for just this reason.  I do the advancement report
first, saving the formatted report as a PDF and the scoutnet file as
a .csv for internet advancement submission.  I put the date in the
PDF filename when I save it, and then rename the CSV file to include
the date as well.

I do wish (and I've asked for this in the past) that there would be a
"badge presented" box for giving out the badges and a "card
presented" box for giving out the cards at a Court of Honor.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@...


Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by korchleader :: Rate this Message:

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Ohhhhhh!  That makes sense!! The TM Help needs to be a bit clearer on this. Thanks!!!!!

Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.

Our troop has a newish Scoutmaster who is really trying to run the program as defined by BSA. The boy gets the badge as soon after earning it as possible, then we hand out cards at the Court of Honor. Our previous SM & CC wouldn't allow me to do that.

We've only done that once so far (last spring). It was well received by both the boys and the parents ... and actually celebrates the badge twice for the boy. They like that.

Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second "Include All " option to generate a COH card list?


Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Greg Marr :: Rate this Message:

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At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
>Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
>
>Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second "Include
>All " option to generate a COH card list?

I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor.  I use P for "presented
at COH".  I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
have a facility for that.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@...


Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Kenneth-44 :: Rate this Message:

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Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was "Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.

It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's a box for each, both R/P.

Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.

Ken

--- In TMTUG@..., Greg Marr <gregm@...> wrote:

>
> At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> >
> >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second "Include
> >All " option to generate a COH card list?
>
> I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor.  I use P for "presented
> at COH".  I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> have a facility for that.
>
> --
> Greg Marr
> gregm@...
>



Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Greg Marr :: Rate this Message:

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At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
>Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
>"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
>
>It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
>Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
>or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
>a box for each, both R/P.
>
>Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.

Yes, there are two flags there, but there are three parts to
reporting/presenting an award:

Reporting to council
Presenting the badge at a troop meeting
Presenting the card at a court of honor



>Ken
>
>--- In <mailto:TMTUG%40yahoogroups.com>TMTUG@..., Greg
>Marr <gregm@...> wrote:
> >
> > At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> > >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> > >
> > >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second
> "Include
> > >All " option to generate a COH card list?
> >
> > I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor. I use P for "presented
> > at COH". I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> > have a facility for that.
> >
> > --
> > Greg Marr
> > gregm@...
> >
>
>

--
Greg Marr
gregm@...


Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by pbguerlain :: Rate this Message:

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This drives me crazy, that there is no way to independently keep track of what's been recognized in a meeting vs at a COH and that it's not obvious how TM checks off the R/P flags.  And that, if one runs a draft report, though it asks if one wants to check them, it does not warn of the consequences because if you give the wrong answer: a)they get checked, b) you lose track of what needs to be recognized, and c) there's no undo available at that point.  Further, there is no straightforward obvious way to go back and uncheck the P flag for all those who did not show up for the COH...  I can live with these limitations, sort of, but as TCC I find it impossible to convey these nuances to the various Advancement chairs that come and go, who don't have the time, patience, or attention to detail required to master such nuances--TM ought to present this info in such a way as to be obvious to the relatively uninitiated.

I do agree 200% that there needs to be a way to independently track what has been recognized upon achievement and recognition at COH!!!

!!

Peter, TCC
Troop 1 of Boonton

--- In TMTUG@..., Greg Marr <gregm@...> wrote:

>
> At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
> >Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
> >"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
> >
> >It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
> >Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
> >or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
> >a box for each, both R/P.
> >
> >Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.
>
> Yes, there are two flags there, but there are three parts to
> reporting/presenting an award:
>
> Reporting to council
> Presenting the badge at a troop meeting
> Presenting the card at a court of honor
>
>
>
> >Ken
> >
> >--- In <mailto:TMTUG%40yahoogroups.com>TMTUG@..., Greg
> >Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> > > >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> > > >
> > > >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second
> > "Include
> > > >All " option to generate a COH card list?
> > >
> > > I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor. I use P for "presented
> > > at COH". I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> > > have a facility for that.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Greg Marr
> > > gregm@
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Greg Marr
> gregm@...
>



Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by David Wildschuetz :: Rate this Message:

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I'm not sure why this is necessary.  If the Scout has earned recognition, then hand the badge out that week.  If he's not there, he couldn't have earned it.  The flags currently in the system are there for long term information, as I doubt anyone can remember off the top of their head all the Scouts that earned awards over a 2 to 3 month period.

If you want a system of who has not been awarded recognition at the weekly meeting, keep a bag with the patches/badges/etc., add to it when the recognition is earned and hand out what you need as you can at the end of the meeting.

Maybe your Troop handles things differently then ours, but this has never been a problem for us.

David




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From: pbguerlain <pbguerlain@...>
To: TMTUG@...
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:07:32 AM
Subject: [TMTUG] Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

 
This drives me crazy, that there is no way to independently keep track of what's been recognized in a meeting vs at a COH and that it's not obvious how TM checks off the R/P flags. And that, if one runs a draft report, though it asks if one wants to check them, it does not warn of the consequences because if you give the wrong answer: a)they get checked, b) you lose track of what needs to be recognized, and c) there's no undo available at that point. Further, there is no straightforward obvious way to go back and uncheck the P flag for all those who did not show up for the COH... I can live with these limitations, sort of, but as TCC I find it impossible to convey these nuances to the various Advancement chairs that come and go, who don't have the time, patience, or attention to detail required to master such nuances--TM ought to present this info in such a way as to be obvious to the relatively uninitiated.

I do agree 200% that there needs to be a way to independently track what has been recognized upon achievement and recognition at COH!!!

!!

Peter, TCC
Troop 1 of Boonton

--- In TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg Marr <gregm@...> wrote:

>
> At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
> >Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
> >"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
> >
> >It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
> >Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
> >or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
> >a box for each, both R/P.
> >
> >Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.
>
> Yes, there are two flags there, but there are three parts to
> reporting/presentin g an award:
>
> Reporting to council
> Presenting the badge at a troop meeting
> Presenting the card at a court of honor
>
>
>
> >Ken
> >
> >--- In <mailto:TMTUG% 40yahoogroups. com>TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg
> >Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> > > >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> > > >
> > > >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second
> > "Include
> > > >All " option to generate a COH card list?
> > >
> > > I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor. I use P for "presented
> > > at COH". I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> > > have a facility for that.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Greg Marr
> > > gregm@
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Greg Marr
> gregm@...
>



Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Greg Marr :: Rate this Message:

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At 11:48 AM 8/21/2009, David Wildschuetz wrote:
>I'm not sure why this is necessary.  If the Scout has earned
>recognition, then hand the badge out that week.  If he's not there,
>he couldn't have earned it.

This assumes that you have enough of every badge on hand to give it
out as soon as the card is turned in, and that it's turned in at a
meeting where that stuff is available.  Some councils and scout shops
are very particular about not giving out badges unless you have an
advancement report, so having a stock of badges can be difficult
(we've had several discussions about that here).

>If you want a system of who has not been awarded recognition at the
>weekly meeting, keep a bag with the patches/badges/etc., add to it
>when the recognition is earned and hand out what you need as you can
>at the end of the meeting.

That's what has to be done now, but you could also do the same thing
for all the advancement, and just be done with troopmaster
altogether.  We have the software to help us track this, and we'd
like it to help us track this stuff.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@...


Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by M Derleth :: Rate this Message:

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Isn't the R for reported, as in "to council", not recognized?
That way, R is completed when the report goes to council and the badge is P[resented] at the next COH date which could be weeks later.

Michael Derleth
ASM / T14 / Eagle Scout



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This drives me crazy, that there is no way to independently keep track of what's been recognized in a meeting vs at a COH and that it's not obvious how TM checks off the R/P flags.  And that, if one runs a draft report, though it asks if one wants to check them, it does not warn of the consequences because if you give the wrong answer: a......



     

Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by David Wildschuetz :: Rate this Message:

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Okay, that does make a little more sense.  We are somewhat fortunate in that we have, over the years, wound up with a few extra rank patches for each rank (except Eagle).  We can hand out the badge the night of the Board, and then replace it when we take the advancement report down to the Scout Shop. 

David




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From: Greg Marr <gregm@...>
To: TMTUG@...
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:28:16 AM
Subject: Re: [TMTUG] Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

 
At 11:48 AM 8/21/2009, David Wildschuetz wrote:
>I'm not sure why this is necessary. If the Scout has earned
>recognition, then hand the badge out that week. If he's not there,
>he couldn't have earned it.

This assumes that you have enough of every badge on hand to give it
out as soon as the card is turned in, and that it's turned in at a
meeting where that stuff is available. Some councils and scout shops
are very particular about not giving out badges unless you have an
advancement report, so having a stock of badges can be difficult
(we've had several discussions about that here).

>If you want a system of who has not been awarded recognition at the
>weekly meeting, keep a bag with the patches/badges/ etc., add to it
>when the recognition is earned and hand out what you need as you can
>at the end of the meeting.

That's what has to be done now, but you could also do the same thing
for all the advancement, and just be done with troopmaster
altogether. We have the software to help us track this, and we'd
like it to help us track this stuff.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@.... edu



Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Greg Marr :: Rate this Message:

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At 12:50 PM 8/21/2009, M Derleth wrote:
>Isn't the R for reported, as in "to council", not recognized?  That
>way, R is completed when the report goes to council

Yes.

>and the badge is P[resented] at the next COH date which could be
>weeks later.

No, the badge is presented at the next available opportunity.  The
award card is presented and the scout is recognized at the next Court
of Honor.

There are flags for the first and last, but not the middle.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@...


Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by Kenneth-44 :: Rate this Message:

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I don't seem to have that problem either. When I do or print out a rough draft COH report and it asks me that question, I always click on cancel instead of YES.

I don't want it to automatically check whether an award is going to be presented or not. I do this manually after the COH.

If a boy shows up and gets his card or award present at COH then I go back and change or check that in TM. If they don't show up, we use little zipplock snack bags put the boys' awards in it to hold until later, with their names on them, hand them out later. When it's given, then record or check "P" in TM...DONE! You can even use a separate Excell checklist like we do when each boy had received everything, which we also do as an added extra step in addition to TM.

We don't need to keep a stockpile of awards or badges. When the Advancement Report is turned in, and awards are purchased, if they're not presented, they're put on hold like I mentioned above with the Scouts' names on them...DONE! If a boy moves before presentation, they get mailed.

If a parent comes up and says "little Johnny didn't get his award" and we (the Troop) don't have anything that has his name on it that was left over from a previous COH, or presented as immediate recognition from a Camporee such as Temporary Insignia, we have that system to fall back on...If little Johnny lost his award, it's up to mom and dad to replace them...Troop only pays for one of each per boy.

Ken
SM-Troop 57
MC-Pack 57

--- In TMTUG@..., David Wildschuetz <shamanlsn@...> wrote:

>
> I'm not sure why this is necessary.  If the Scout has earned recognition, then hand the badge out that week.  If he's not there, he couldn't have earned it.  The flags currently in the system are there for long term information, as I doubt anyone can remember off the top of their head all the Scouts that earned awards over a 2 to 3 month period.
>
> If you want a system of who has not been awarded recognition at the weekly meeting, keep a bag with the patches/badges/etc., add to it when the recognition is earned and hand out what you need as you can at the end of the meeting.
>
> Maybe your Troop handles things differently then ours, but this has never been a problem for us.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pbguerlain <pbguerlain@...>
> To: TMTUG@...
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:07:32 AM
> Subject: [TMTUG] Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management
>
>  
> This drives me crazy, that there is no way to independently keep track of what's been recognized in a meeting vs at a COH and that it's not obvious how TM checks off the R/P flags. And that, if one runs a draft report, though it asks if one wants to check them, it does not warn of the consequences because if you give the wrong answer: a)they get checked, b) you lose track of what needs to be recognized, and c) there's no undo available at that point. Further, there is no straightforward obvious way to go back and uncheck the P flag for all those who did not show up for the COH... I can live with these limitations, sort of, but as TCC I find it impossible to convey these nuances to the various Advancement chairs that come and go, who don't have the time, patience, or attention to detail required to master such nuances--TM ought to present this info in such a way as to be obvious to the relatively uninitiated.
>
> I do agree 200% that there needs to be a way to independently track what has been recognized upon achievement and recognition at COH!!!
>
> !!
>
> Peter, TCC
> Troop 1 of Boonton
>
> --- In TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> >
> > At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
> > >Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
> > >"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
> > >
> > >It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
> > >Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
> > >or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
> > >a box for each, both R/P.
> > >
> > >Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.
> >
> > Yes, there are two flags there, but there are three parts to
> > reporting/presentin g an award:
> >
> > Reporting to council
> > Presenting the badge at a troop meeting
> > Presenting the card at a court of honor
> >
> >
> >
> > >Ken
> > >
> > >--- In <mailto:TMTUG% 40yahoogroups. com>TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg
> > >Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> > > > >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> > > > >
> > > > >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second
> > > "Include
> > > > >All " option to generate a COH card list?
> > > >
> > > > I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor. I use P for "presented
> > > > at COH". I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> > > > have a facility for that.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Greg Marr
> > > > gregm@
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Greg Marr
> > gregm@
> >
>



Re: Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by David Wildschuetz :: Rate this Message:

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Well, it depends on how you run your Court of Honor report.   Normally, the 'P' flag is used for whether or not it has been 'presented' or ' recognized' at a Court of Honor.  The report can be run to include *anything* between the given dates, regardless of the flag.  However, the intent of that flag is for Court of Honor.  If you look in the manual in section 6.3, you should find the following statement.

"We recognize that badges and awards are generally given to a scout as soon as he earns them.
The term “Presented” in TroopMaster refers to the act of officially recognizing the scout at a
Court of Honor"

David


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From: Greg Marr <gregm@...>
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:03:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TMTUG] Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

 
At 12:50 PM 8/21/2009, M Derleth wrote:
>Isn't the R for reported, as in "to council", not recognized? That
>way, R is completed when the report goes to council

Yes.

>and the badge is P[resented] at the next COH date which could be
>weeks later.

No, the badge is presented at the next available opportunity. The
award card is presented and the scout is recognized at the next Court
of Honor.

There are flags for the first and last, but not the middle.

--
Greg Marr
gregm@.... edu



Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management

by jljocque :: Rate this Message:

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Hello All,
I am a total newbie to this group, just joined an hour ago, trying to figure out this "R/P" issue. I just want to point out a small error in wording from (I think) Ken:

> > > At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
> > > >Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
> > > >"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
> > > >
> > > >It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
> > > >Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
> > > >or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
> > > >a box for each, both R/P.
> > > >
> > > >Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.

In Scout Management, there is a list of dialogues (Scout, Tenderfoot...etc ...Advancement Remarks). One of these dialogues is (wait for it...) "Merit Badges Completed". If you choose that dialogue there are no R/P checkboxes available.

The MB R/P checkboxes are under the Star, Life, Eagle and Palm dialogues. It is labeled "Merit Badges Earned" (not Completed).

I realize that this sounds like a petty complaint, but I just spent 45 minutes trying to figure out why I didn't see checkboxes in "MB Completed". I was saved by the Troopmaster Powerpoint presentation, which Ken helpfully points out in another thread.

I just wanted to clarify this for any future users of this thread.

Thank you,
John Jocque

--- In TMTUG@..., "ken_hartman2" <khartman@...> wrote:

>
> I don't seem to have that problem either. When I do or print out a rough draft COH report and it asks me that question, I always click on cancel instead of YES.
>
> I don't want it to automatically check whether an award is going to be presented or not. I do this manually after the COH.
>
> If a boy shows up and gets his card or award present at COH then I go back and change or check that in TM. If they don't show up, we use little zipplock snack bags put the boys' awards in it to hold until later, with their names on them, hand them out later. When it's given, then record or check "P" in TM...DONE! You can even use a separate Excell checklist like we do when each boy had received everything, which we also do as an added extra step in addition to TM.
>
> We don't need to keep a stockpile of awards or badges. When the Advancement Report is turned in, and awards are purchased, if they're not presented, they're put on hold like I mentioned above with the Scouts' names on them...DONE! If a boy moves before presentation, they get mailed.
>
> If a parent comes up and says "little Johnny didn't get his award" and we (the Troop) don't have anything that has his name on it that was left over from a previous COH, or presented as immediate recognition from a Camporee such as Temporary Insignia, we have that system to fall back on...If little Johnny lost his award, it's up to mom and dad to replace them...Troop only pays for one of each per boy.
>
> Ken
> SM-Troop 57
> MC-Pack 57
>
> --- In TMTUG@..., David Wildschuetz <shamanlsn@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure why this is necessary.  If the Scout has earned recognition, then hand the badge out that week.  If he's not there, he couldn't have earned it.  The flags currently in the system are there for long term information, as I doubt anyone can remember off the top of their head all the Scouts that earned awards over a 2 to 3 month period.
> >
> > If you want a system of who has not been awarded recognition at the weekly meeting, keep a bag with the patches/badges/etc., add to it when the recognition is earned and hand out what you need as you can at the end of the meeting.
> >
> > Maybe your Troop handles things differently then ours, but this has never been a problem for us.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: pbguerlain <pbguerlain@>
> > To: TMTUG@...
> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:07:32 AM
> > Subject: [TMTUG] Re: Reported/Presented Check-off Management
> >
> >  
> > This drives me crazy, that there is no way to independently keep track of what's been recognized in a meeting vs at a COH and that it's not obvious how TM checks off the R/P flags. And that, if one runs a draft report, though it asks if one wants to check them, it does not warn of the consequences because if you give the wrong answer: a)they get checked, b) you lose track of what needs to be recognized, and c) there's no undo available at that point. Further, there is no straightforward obvious way to go back and uncheck the P flag for all those who did not show up for the COH... I can live with these limitations, sort of, but as TCC I find it impossible to convey these nuances to the various Advancement chairs that come and go, who don't have the time, patience, or attention to detail required to master such nuances--TM ought to present this info in such a way as to be obvious to the relatively uninitiated.
> >
> > I do agree 200% that there needs to be a way to independently track what has been recognized upon achievement and recognition at COH!!!
> >
> > !!
> >
> > Peter, TCC
> > Troop 1 of Boonton
> >
> > --- In TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > At 01:14 AM 8/20/2009, ken_hartman2 wrote:
> > > >Sure there's a feature to record or flag whether or not an award was
> > > >"Presented" or not other than in the COH reports.
> > > >
> > > >It's in the Scout Management section when you pull up individual
> > > >Scout's Advancement. If you say happen to be on the section for Star
> > > >or Life of a particular Scout, right there next to BOR date, there's
> > > >a box for each, both R/P.
> > > >
> > > >Same goes for Merit Badges Completed.
> > >
> > > Yes, there are two flags there, but there are three parts to
> > > reporting/presentin g an award:
> > >
> > > Reporting to council
> > > Presenting the badge at a troop meeting
> > > Presenting the card at a court of honor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Ken
> > > >
> > > >--- In <mailto:TMTUG% 40yahoogroups. com>TMTUG@yahoogroups. com, Greg
> > > >Marr <gregm@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:14 PM 8/19/2009, korchleader wrote:
> > > > > >Yeah, a card setting (R/P/C) would be a nice feature.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Do you rerun the COH report by date and then use the second
> > > > "Include
> > > > > >All " option to generate a COH card list?
> > > > >
> > > > > I only run COH reports for Courts of Honor. I use P for "presented
> > > > > at COH". I don't track badge presenting in TM, because they don't
> > > > > have a facility for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Greg Marr
> > > > > gregm@
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Greg Marr
> > > gregm@
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