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STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by tobltobs :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
I stumpled over the CPAL licence.

Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
buy a licence.
That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?

I believe you will have a hard time propagating the new development
paradigm (STK) with the CPAL licence requirement.

Regards

Tobias

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Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by olafmolilink :: Rate this Message:

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woops, good reading! This is indeed bad news, i don't think we can
easily sell this to our clients that don't have the money to buy an
enterprise license )-:

Olaf

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Tobias Reinhardt<tobltobs@...> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>
> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
> buy a licence.
> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?
>
> I believe you will have a hard time propagating the new development
> paradigm (STK) with the CPAL licence requirement.
>
> Regards
>
> Tobias
>
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Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by Ralf Hirning-2 :: Rate this Message:

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I do not have any problems with the CPAL license. With the STK I can
speed up develoment of a site and I can sell projects with a lower price
which opens a new segment of customers if they accept the CPAL license.


Ralf

Olaf iLink schrieb:

> woops, good reading! This is indeed bad news, i don't think we can
> easily sell this to our clients that don't have the money to buy an
> enterprise license )-:
>
> Olaf
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Tobias Reinhardt<tobltobs@...> wrote:
>  
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
>> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>>
>> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
>> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
>> buy a licence.
>> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?
>>
>> I believe you will have a hard time propagating the new development
>> paradigm (STK) with the CPAL licence requirement.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tobias
>>
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Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by Matteo Pelucco :: Rate this Message:

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Tobias Reinhardt ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>
> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
> buy a licence.
> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?

Can you elaborate this a little?
What do you mean with "display the attribution required by the CPAL
licence"?

Thanks a lot, I would like to better understand this...

Matteo


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Re: Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by olafmolilink :: Rate this Message:

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As far as i understand it when using the STK in the CE of magnolia,
you have to add a (small) magnolia logo/image to your pages.

http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/products/community/stk/cpal.html

Olaf

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Matteo
Pelucco<matteo.pelucco@...> wrote:

>
> Tobias Reinhardt ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
>> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>>
>> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
>> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
>> buy a licence.
>> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?
>
> Can you elaborate this a little?
> What do you mean with "display the attribution required by the CPAL
> licence"?
>
> Thanks a lot, I would like to better understand this...
>
> Matteo
>
>
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Re: Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by Will Scheidegger :: Rate this Message:

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Hm... thanks for the pointer. No STK for me then... or could you see a  
green "Magnolia" logo at the bottom of this page for instance:

http://www.mtbcycletech.com/

I would not have a problem with displaying a text like "Powered by  
Magnolia CMS" at the bottom in the same way we added links to the  
designers and to us... but even this might be a problem. We do have  
customers where this was not possible because they depend on sponsors  
and the deal is, that only their official sponsors may appear on their  
website.

But hey, so far I was pretty happy with JSP templates.

-will

On 25.06.2009, at 10:51, Olaf iLink wrote:

>
> As far as i understand it when using the STK in the CE of magnolia,
> you have to add a (small) magnolia logo/image to your pages.
>
> http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/products/community/stk/cpal.html
>
> Olaf
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Matteo
> Pelucco<matteo.pelucco@...> wrote:
>>
>> Tobias Reinhardt ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the  
>>> STK,
>>> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>>>
>>> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
>>> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
>>> buy a licence.
>>> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?
>>
>> Can you elaborate this a little?
>> What do you mean with "display the attribution required by the CPAL
>> licence"?
>>
>> Thanks a lot, I would like to better understand this...
>>
>> Matteo
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
>
> Olaf Molenveld
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Updating a Project to Mgnl 4.1 and STK 1.1

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Hallo List,

I'm updating one of our projects from mgnl4.0.1 and stk1.1-m4 to mgnl4.1
and STK1.1 and would like to share some experiences.

We could remove most of our patched magnolia classes because the bugs
have been fixed.

Updating the stk module caused some problems with our project. Obviuosly
the structure is not exactly as expected by the update tasks.

1. Task 'Update site configuration' failed.
The UpdateSiteConfigurationTask failed because it could not load a node
'/modoules/standard-templating-kit/config/site/templates/prototype'. The
prototype-node should have been created before by the same task but this
happans only if a node
'/modoules/standard-templating-kit/config/site/layout' exists. For some
reason this node was missing in our project.
Adding this node fixed the problem and we could see the next.

2. Task 'New template definitions' failed.
This happens because 'a node with uuid
324f5252-6dac-4ac4-8c37-39ad37a48121 already exists'. In our project
this was
/modules/standard-templating-kit/templates/stkSection.mainArea.paragraph
s.
We fixed it by removing this template. Since we provide a modified
version of stkSection with our project we had to manually change the
uuid in our bootstrap file too.

Note, that before failour 2 the update process renamed the node
'/modules/standard-templating-kit/config/site/style' to '.../theme'. If
style is missing the UpdateSiteConfigurationTask fails. This is good
luck because it allows us to restart magnolia and fix the
'uudi-already-exists-problem'. Just don'f forget to rename 'theme' back
to 'style' if you want to restart magnolia update again.

Now the stk update process completed without problems. However, our
module is not OK now. I'll come back with more problems.

Cheers Wolf


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Re: Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by tobltobs :: Rate this Message:

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In the PDF explaining the licence the logo is not mentioned, only a
text link, like you would prefer. (Last page of this document)
But still, most customer/designer would not accept this.

2009/6/25 Will Scheidegger <willscheidegger@...>:

>
> Hm... thanks for the pointer. No STK for me then... or could you see a green
> "Magnolia" logo at the bottom of this page for instance:
>
> http://www.mtbcycletech.com/
>
> I would not have a problem with displaying a text like "Powered by Magnolia
> CMS" at the bottom in the same way we added links to the designers and to
> us... but even this might be a problem. We do have customers where this was
> not possible because they depend on sponsors and the deal is, that only
> their official sponsors may appear on their website.
>
> But hey, so far I was pretty happy with JSP templates.
>
> -will
>
> On 25.06.2009, at 10:51, Olaf iLink wrote:
>
>>
>> As far as i understand it when using the STK in the CE of magnolia,
>> you have to add a (small) magnolia logo/image to your pages.
>>
>> http://www.magnolia-cms.com/home/products/community/stk/cpal.html
>>
>> Olaf
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Matteo
>> Pelucco<matteo.pelucco@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tobias Reinhardt ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> After starting to investigate the wonderful world of 4.1 and the STK,
>>>> I stumpled over the CPAL licence.
>>>>
>>>> Most of my project will not allow me to display the attribution
>>>> required by the CPAL licence, they are also not profitable enough to
>>>> buy a licence.
>>>> That means I can not use the STK. Am I right?
>>>
>>> Can you elaborate this a little?
>>> What do you mean with "display the attribution required by the CPAL
>>> licence"?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot, I would like to better understand this...
>>>
>>> Matteo
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
>>
>> Olaf Molenveld
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> Interactive Link
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>> 3512 EA Utrecht
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>> F +31 (0)30 634 32 65
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>> olaf@...
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Re: Updating a Project to Mgnl 4.1 and STK 1.1

by Philipp Bärfuss :: Rate this Message:

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> I'm updating one of our projects from mgnl4.0.1 and stk1.1-m4 to  
> mgnl4.1
> and STK1.1 and would like to share some experiences.

The update processes doesn't support updates from milestone releases,  
but only updates from the former final versions.

> Now the stk update process completed without problems. However, our
> module is not OK now. I'll come back with more problems.

Any symptoms?

Best regards,

Philipp Bärfuss
Magnolia International Ltd.

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Re: STK + CPAL or plain old JSPs

by Matteo Pelucco :: Rate this Message:

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Tobias Reinhardt ha scritto:
> In the PDF explaining the licence the logo is not mentioned, only a
> text link, like you would prefer. (Last page of this document)
> But still, most customer/designer would not accept this.

Ok, now it is clear, thanks.

M.


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AW: Updating a Project to Mgnl 4.1 and STK 1.1

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Symptom is a freemarker.template.TemplateModelException: get(logoImageLink) failed, Caused by: info.magnolia.module.templatingkit.dam.DAMException: No handler found with name [dms] for [/demo-project/logoImg].

This is because the update task of our website module ruins the work of the stk1.1 update tasks. As a result the standard-templating-kit.config.site.damSupport node is missing... .

When I fixed this I expect the sun shines again...

Regards Wolf  

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 11:41
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Betreff: Re: [magnolia-user] Updating a Project to Mgnl 4.1 and STK 1.1


> I'm updating one of our projects from mgnl4.0.1 and stk1.1-m4 to  
> mgnl4.1
> and STK1.1 and would like to share some experiences.

The update processes doesn't support updates from milestone releases,  
but only updates from the former final versions.

> Now the stk update process completed without problems. However, our
> module is not OK now. I'll come back with more problems.

Any symptoms?

Best regards,

Philipp Bärfuss
Magnolia International Ltd.

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