SciTE saves to an alternate reality?? - Vista issue

[dflo404]

I used GNU Octave on an XP laptop for a few months in a college Programming class with no problems.

However, I recently got a new laptop, which runs Vista 32-bit, and I am experiencing a rather bizarre problem.

In plain terms, when I write a code with the SciTE application, it essentially saves the file in an alternate reality.

For example, I have a folder called es115 where I store all my files for my class.  It's location is C:\Program Files\Octave\es115.  I will write some code in SciTE, then save in that exact same location.  However, when I go to that folder via windows explorer, it does not appear there.  Though, when I go to SciTE and open a file, it shows that it is in that folder.  It is almost as if SciTE is saving the file to some sort of alternative reality on my computer

If I try to load the file through Octave, it will not find it.  And yes, I have my directory set to that folder.  I follow the exact same procedure as I did on my XP computer.

The only way I can use the code in Octave is if I save the file to my desktop from SciTE, then manually drag the file to the es115 folder via windows explorer.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and I've even tried an older version of Octave (I've tried 3.0.3 and 3.0.1).  I'm fairly good with computers, but I've never seen anything as strange as this.  Perhaps this is cake to fix for you guys, so could anyone give me any advice?

Thanks,
Dan

[Sergei Steshenko-2]

--- On Mon, 3/23/09, dflo404 <dflo404@...> wrote:

> From: dflo404 <dflo404@...>
> Subject: SciTE saves to an alternate reality?? - Vista issue
> To: bug-octave@...
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 8:07 PM
>
> I used GNU Octave on an XP laptop for a few months in a
> college Programming
> class with no problems.
>
> However, I recently got a new laptop, which runs Vista
> 32-bit, and I am
> experiencing a rather bizarre problem.
>
> In plain terms, when I write a code with the SciTE
> application, it
> essentially saves the file in an alternate reality.
>
> For example, I have a folder called es115 where I store all
> my files for my
> class.  It's location is C:\Program
> Files\Octave\es115.  I will write some
> code in SciTE, then save in that exact same location. 
> However, when I go to
> that folder via windows explorer, it does not appear
> there.  Though, when I
> go to SciTE and open a file, it shows that it is in that
> folder.  It is
> almost as if SciTE is saving the file to some sort of
> alternative reality on
> my computer :-O
>
> If I try to load the file through Octave, it will not find
> it.  And yes, I
> have my directory set to that folder.  I follow the
> exact same procedure as
> I did on my XP computer.
>
> The only way I can use the code in Octave is if I save the
> file to my
> desktop from SciTE, then manually drag the file to the
> es115 folder via
> windows explorer.
>
> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and I've even
> tried an older
> version of Octave (I've tried 3.0.3 and 3.0.1).  I'm
> fairly good with
> computers, but I've never seen anything as strange as
> this.  Perhaps this is
> cake to fix for you guys, so could anyone give me any
> advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SciTE-saves-to-an-alternate-reality-----Vista-issue-tp22673541p22673541.html
> Sent from the Octave - Bugs mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
>

Is SciTE part of 'octave' ?

Regards,
  Sergei.


     

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[Michael Goffioul-2]

Is it possible that somehow the created files are hidden?
(Check the folder options and enable viewing of hidden files).

Michael.


On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:07 AM, dflo404 <dflo404@...> wrote:

>
> I used GNU Octave on an XP laptop for a few months in a college Programming
> class with no problems.
>
> However, I recently got a new laptop, which runs Vista 32-bit, and I am
> experiencing a rather bizarre problem.
>
> In plain terms, when I write a code with the SciTE application, it
> essentially saves the file in an alternate reality.
>
> For example, I have a folder called es115 where I store all my files for my
> class.  It's location is C:\Program Files\Octave\es115.  I will write some
> code in SciTE, then save in that exact same location.  However, when I go to
> that folder via windows explorer, it does not appear there.  Though, when I
> go to SciTE and open a file, it shows that it is in that folder.  It is
> almost as if SciTE is saving the file to some sort of alternative reality on
> my computer :-O
>
> If I try to load the file through Octave, it will not find it.  And yes, I
> have my directory set to that folder.  I follow the exact same procedure as
> I did on my XP computer.
>
> The only way I can use the code in Octave is if I save the file to my
> desktop from SciTE, then manually drag the file to the es115 folder via
> windows explorer.
>
> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and I've even tried an older
> version of Octave (I've tried 3.0.3 and 3.0.1).  I'm fairly good with
> computers, but I've never seen anything as strange as this.  Perhaps this is
> cake to fix for you guys, so could anyone give me any advice?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/SciTE-saves-to-an-alternate-reality-----Vista-issue-tp22673541p22673541.html
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>
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[dflo404]

SciTE is the editor application that came with GNU Octave.  When I type "edit" in the Octave interface, a window pops up, where I can type whatever I want, and save it as a .m file, or anything that I choose, which can then be called through Octave.  The window that pops up is the SciTE application.

I have tried showing hidden files on my computer, and the same problem still occurs.

[John W. Eaton-3]

On 24-Mar-2009, dflo404 wrote:

| SciTE is the editor application that came with GNU Octave.

But even though SciTE can be used by Octave for editing files, it is
not part of Octave.  You can choose to use other editors for creating
files that Octave can use.

Didn't you already say that if you move the files to the directory in
such a way that they are visible, that Octave can find them?  In that
case, it seems like the problem is with SciTE, or the settings on your
system that control whether files are hidden.  I don't think this is a
problem with Octave.

jwe
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[Thomas Weber-8]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 08:07:30PM -0700, dflo404 wrote:

>
> I used GNU Octave on an XP laptop for a few months in a college Programming
> class with no problems.
>
> However, I recently got a new laptop, which runs Vista 32-bit, and I am
> experiencing a rather bizarre problem.
>
> In plain terms, when I write a code with the SciTE application, it
> essentially saves the file in an alternate reality.
>
> For example, I have a folder called es115 where I store all my files for my
> class.  It's location is C:\Program Files\Octave\es115.  

Please don't work with administrative privileges and save your files
under your user account (which seems to get rid of the problem for you).

And yes, that advice goes for the other brand as well.

        Thomas
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[Tatsuro MATSUOKA-2]

Hello

SciTE is an editor developed by the SciTE development team and not related with the octave team.
SciTE is bundled with only on the octave for windows on MSVC packages.
For octave for windows on mingw ships notepad++ as an editor.

So the octave ML is not a proper place to discuss it.

The octave for windows on MSVC packages are distributed from the octave-forge.

Therefore I recommend you to subscribe to the octave-forge ML and post your issue there

Regards

Tatsuro
 

--- dflo404  wrote:

>
> SciTE is the editor application that came with GNU Octave.  When I type
> "edit" in the Octave interface, a window pops up, where I can type whatever
> I want, and save it as a .m file, or anything that I choose, which can then
> be called through Octave.  The window that pops up is the SciTE application.
>
> I have tried showing hidden files on my computer, and the same problem still
> occurs.
>
> --
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> http://www.nabble.com/SciTE-saves-to-an-alternate-reality-----Vista-issue-tp22673541p22685161.html
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[Olli Saarela]

dflo404 wrote:
> I used GNU Octave on an XP laptop for a few months in a college Programming
> class with no problems.
>
> However, I recently got a new laptop, which runs Vista 32-bit, and I am
> experiencing a rather bizarre problem.
>
> In plain terms, when I write a code with the SciTE application, it
> essentially saves the file in an alternate reality.

I think this unintuitive operation is a Vista feature I recall reading about somewhere. This feature of Vista attempts to patch security while retaining backward compatibility. In previous versions of MS Windows any application could write files to any system directory. In order to maintain compatibility Vista still allows them to do so. However, to patch security Vista makes such changes to the system directories visible only to the software that has made them. The terms "alternate reality" and "Vista issue" in the message title are descriptive.

I tried this with the editor I happen to use (Emacs), and saw exactly the same.

As you have already been advised, it's not a good idea to keep your working files in what Microsoft considers system directories.

Share and enjoy,
  Olli


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