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	<title>Nabble - Shale - User</title>
	<updated>2009-07-01T02:42:08Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-24287017</id>
	<title>&lt;s:token&gt; - should be able to detect back/forward?</title>
	<published>2009-07-01T02:42:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-07-01T02:42:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Agoston Bejo</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have tried out shales in order to be able to prevent the user from pressing the back/forward buttons or resubmitting. (Meaning: ignoring that request and either redirecting to an error page or at least showing an error message.) 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems to me, though, that all it is able to do is detect resubmits (and afterwards it always shows the error message, even if I 'normally' submit the form again).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am I not setting it up correctly or is it supposed to work this way?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Agoston
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; </content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23728565</id>
	<title>Re: Clay &amp; Scxml</title>
	<published>2009-05-26T11:18:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-26T11:18:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rahul Akolkar</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Dave Hagan &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23728565&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;d.hagan@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  We have been developing with Shale for the last 3 years and have found the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; shale Clay &amp; the Scxml dialogs extremely useful - Can Clay and Scxml be used
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with Myfaces and other frameworks as a stand alone piece.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;snip/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll speak to the SCXML dialogs -- yes, definitely, the dialogs can be
&lt;br&gt;used with any kind of views really, be it MyFaces or any other view
&lt;br&gt;layer technologies.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please note that Shale has recently moved to the Apache Attic, more on
&lt;br&gt;that here [1]. This basically means that no further Shale development
&lt;br&gt;is planned (as part of the Apache Shale project). Ofcourse, old
&lt;br&gt;releases will continue to be available for download.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Rahul
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org/projects/shale.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org/projects/shale.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dave Hagan
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23719591</id>
	<title>Clay &amp; Scxml</title>
	<published>2009-05-26T02:22:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-26T02:22:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dave Hagan-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;We have been developing with Shale for the last 3 years and have &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;found the shale Clay &amp; the Scxml dialogs extremely useful - Can Clay &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;and Scxml be used with Myfaces and other frameworks as a stand alone &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;piece.
&lt;br&gt;Regards
&lt;br&gt;Dave Hagan
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23660327</id>
	<title>FYI Fwd: [TEST] Shale Test copied</title>
	<published>2009-05-21T13:54:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-21T13:54:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Matthias Wessendorf-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">FYI
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---------- Forwarded message ----------
&lt;br&gt;From: Matthias Wessendorf &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23660327&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;matzew@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:48 PM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [TEST] Shale Test copied
&lt;br&gt;To: MyFaces Development &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23660327&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dev@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as Shale has *retired* (see [1]) I finally... copied the test
&lt;br&gt;framework code over to myfaces (as already
&lt;br&gt;discussed before).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Folder:
&lt;br&gt;/myfaces/test/trunk
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think we all (myfaces committers) should be able to commit to the
&lt;br&gt;folder... if not, let me know...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will do the package renaming etc, so that we can continue the
&lt;br&gt;success story of the shale testing
&lt;br&gt;code (and have the right enhancements for MyFaces 2.0)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Matthias
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[1] &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Matthias Wessendorf
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;sessions: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Matthias Wessendorf
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;sessions: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23492298</id>
	<title>Re: Error Handling</title>
	<published>2009-05-11T15:00:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-11T15:00:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Tim, it's likely because the error happened during the rendering phase 
&lt;br&gt;after the beginning of the HTML has already been flushed on the response 
&lt;br&gt;socket...
&lt;br&gt;You have a couple of options:
&lt;br&gt;1) move your offending code into prerender event and add an &amp;lt;s:subview&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;very high in your page markup so it's executed before a lot of markup is 
&lt;br&gt;written on the socket, or
&lt;br&gt;2) increase the page buffer size to be larger than the content before 
&lt;br&gt;your exception is triggered, e.g. &amp;lt;%@ page buffer=&amp;quot;10kb&amp;quot; %&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Hope it helps,
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Cyril Bouteille
&lt;br&gt;TravelMuse, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tim Corless wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I found that I have a NullPointerException in the my prerender code of my ViewController but I don't get an error page. &amp;nbsp;I have set EXCEPTION_DISPATCH_PATH and it looks like when Shale does the redirect to my error page, the redirect causes an IllegalStateException. &amp;nbsp;I have MyFaces default error handling on but I don't get an error page at all. &amp;nbsp;Does anyone know how I get my error page to display?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;context-param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;param-name&amp;gt;org.apache.shale.view.EXCEPTION_DISPATCH_PATH&amp;lt;/param-name&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;param-value&amp;gt;/actions/app/Error.action&amp;lt;/param-value&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/context-param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [2009-05-05 08:39:27,566] [WebContainer : 20] *ERROR* org.apache.myfaces.lifecycle.PhaseListenerManager - Exception in PhaseListener RENDER_RESPONSE(6) afterPhase
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward. Response already committed.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebAppRequestDispatcher.forward(WebAppRequestDispatcher.java:157)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at org.apache.myfaces.context.servlet.ServletExternalContextImpl.dispatch(ServletExternalContextImpl.java:425)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at org.apache.shale.view.faces.ViewPhaseListener.afterPhaseExceptionCheck(ViewPhaseListener.java:202)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -Tim
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23390558</id>
	<title>Error Handling</title>
	<published>2009-05-05T08:07:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-05T08:07:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tim Corless</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I found that I have a NullPointerException in the my prerender code of my ViewController but I don't get an error page. &amp;nbsp;I have set EXCEPTION_DISPATCH_PATH and it looks like when Shale does the redirect to my error page, the redirect causes an IllegalStateException. &amp;nbsp;I have MyFaces default error handling on but I don't get an error page at all. &amp;nbsp;Does anyone know how I get my error page to display?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;context-param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;param-name&amp;gt;org.apache.shale.view.EXCEPTION_DISPATCH_PATH&amp;lt;/param-name&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;param-value&amp;gt;/actions/app/Error.action&amp;lt;/param-value&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/context-param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;[2009-05-05 08:39:27,566] [WebContainer : 20] *ERROR* org.apache.myfaces.lifecycle.PhaseListenerManager - Exception in PhaseListener RENDER_RESPONSE(6) afterPhase
&lt;br&gt;java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot forward. Response already committed.
&lt;br&gt;at com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebAppRequestDispatcher.forward(WebAppRequestDispatcher.java:157)
&lt;br&gt;at org.apache.myfaces.context.servlet.ServletExternalContextImpl.dispatch(ServletExternalContextImpl.java:425)
&lt;br&gt;at org.apache.shale.view.faces.ViewPhaseListener.afterPhaseExceptionCheck(ViewPhaseListener.java:202)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;-Tim
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23339352</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-05-01T13:35:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-01T13:35:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kito Mann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Cyril Bouteille &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23339352&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;



  

&lt;div bgcolor=&quot;#ffffff&quot; text=&quot;#003300&quot;&gt;
It provides the missing C in MVC of JSF for GET requests. &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt; :-) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;A hook in the JSP
where you can declare which managed bean should be initialized for
rendering.&lt;br&gt;
Typically high in your JSP, &amp;lt;s:subview id=&amp;quot;name-of-your-bean&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
would call NameOfYourBean.prerender() event. Each page is in control of
what beans it needs w/o maintaining any additional mapping file or
worry about URLs. It provides you also with the flexibility to do
conditional initialization with verbatims etc.&lt;br&gt;
I&amp;#39;ll check your link, thanks. It looks like the hook is the other
direction with orchestra where the bean maps to JSPs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, I see. Nice. FYI, the phaseListener feature in JSF 1.2 is more fine-grained than I mentioned; you can reference a specific method via a method expression for beforePhase and afterPhase. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.2_MR1/docs/tlddocs/f/view.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://java.sun.com/javaee/javaserverfaces/1.2_MR1/docs/tlddocs/f/view.html&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div bgcolor=&quot;#ffffff&quot; text=&quot;#003300&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;h5&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Kito Mann wrote:
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;Hello Cyril,&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;br&gt;
The Orchestra ViewController can definitely handle this. See: &lt;a href=&quot;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;

  &lt;br&gt;
I&amp;#39;m not too familiar with the &amp;lt;s:subview&amp;gt; tag -- how does that
work?&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
---&lt;br&gt;
Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action&lt;br&gt;
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  &lt;br&gt;
  &lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Cyril
Bouteille &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23339352&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;
wrote:&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;Hi
Kito, by VC feature I meant essentially the prerender event for
processing GET requests. I couldn&amp;#39;t see such hook from Orchestra&amp;#39;s
overview. Does it have such a feature?&lt;br&gt;
Writing custom PhaseListeners kicking in logic based on URLs gets a bit
old... :) Shale&amp;#39;s declarative &amp;lt;s:subview id&amp;gt; is great and much
cleaner. Anything else like that out there?
    &lt;div&gt;
    &lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;br&gt;
Kito Mann wrote:&lt;br&gt;
    &lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23339352&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;wrote:&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
 &lt;br&gt;
      &lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for&lt;br&gt;
migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.&lt;br&gt;
   &lt;br&gt;
      &lt;/blockquote&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
MyFaces Apache Orchestra has a view controller feature as well, and you
with&lt;br&gt;
JSF 1.2 sometimes a PhaseListener associated with a particular view can&lt;br&gt;
yield similar results:&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;f:view beforePhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.beforePhase}&amp;quot;&lt;br&gt;
afterPhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.afterPhase}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
...&lt;br&gt;
&amp;lt;/f:view&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
The remoting features are a different story, though. JSF 2.0 has most
of the&lt;br&gt;
Shale features (excluding the dialog framework and test framework). It&lt;br&gt;
handles most of the use cases Shale Remoting handles (i.e. resource&lt;br&gt;
mangement) but doesn&amp;#39;t allow you to call arbitrary methods in the same&lt;br&gt;
manner.&lt;br&gt;
      &lt;br&gt;
 &lt;br&gt;
      &lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Greg Reddin wrote:&lt;br&gt;
        &lt;br&gt;
   &lt;br&gt;
        &lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has&lt;br&gt;
voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale&lt;br&gt;
developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted&lt;br&gt;
to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to&lt;br&gt;
the Attic project.&lt;br&gt;
          &lt;br&gt;
The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development&lt;br&gt;
of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to&lt;br&gt;
migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to&lt;br&gt;
that regard in the near future.&lt;br&gt;
          &lt;br&gt;
You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
          &lt;br&gt;
You can follow the progress of the move at&lt;br&gt;
          &lt;br&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;
if you so wish.&lt;br&gt;
          &lt;br&gt;
On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23338057</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-05-01T11:53:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-01T11:53:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">It provides the missing C in MVC of JSF for GET requests. &amp;nbsp;:-) A hook in 
&lt;br&gt;the JSP where you can declare which managed bean should be initialized 
&lt;br&gt;for rendering.
&lt;br&gt;Typically high in your JSP, &amp;lt;s:subview id=&amp;quot;name-of-your-bean&amp;quot;&amp;gt; would 
&lt;br&gt;call NameOfYourBean.prerender() event. Each page is in control of what 
&lt;br&gt;beans it needs w/o maintaining any additional mapping file or worry 
&lt;br&gt;about URLs or having to recompile java on changes. It provides you also 
&lt;br&gt;with the flexibility to do conditional initialization with verbatims etc.
&lt;br&gt;I'll check your link, thanks. It looks like the hook is the other 
&lt;br&gt;direction with orchestra where the bean maps to JSPs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kito Mann wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello Cyril,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The Orchestra ViewController can definitely handle this. See: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not too familiar with the &amp;lt;s:subview&amp;gt; tag -- how does that work?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/kito99&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/kito99&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtua.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.virtua.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +1 203-404-4848 x3
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23338057&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23338057&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Hi Kito, by VC feature I meant essentially the prerender event for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; processing GET requests. I couldn't see such hook from Orchestra's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; overview. Does it have such a feature?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Writing custom PhaseListeners kicking in logic based on URLs gets
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; a bit old... :) Shale's declarative &amp;lt;s:subview id&amp;gt; is great and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; much cleaner. Anything else like that out there?
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23337768</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-05-01T11:30:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-01T11:30:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kito Mann</name>
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	<content type="html">FYI, I wrote a new blog entry about this:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.jsfcentral.com/editorsdesk/entry/shale_in_the_attic&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.jsfcentral.com/editorsdesk/entry/shale_in_the_attic&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;---
&lt;br&gt;Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/kito99&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/kito99&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtua.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.virtua.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
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&lt;br&gt;+1 203-404-4848 x3
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Kito Mann &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23337768&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kito.mann@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello Cyril,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The Orchestra ViewController can definitely handle this. See:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; .
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm not too familiar with the &amp;lt;s:subview&amp;gt; tag -- how does that work?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/kito99&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/kito99&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/jsfcentral&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.virtua.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.virtua.com&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- JSF/Java EE consulting, training, and mentoring
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; +1 203-404-4848 x3
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23337768&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Kito, by VC feature I meant essentially the prerender event for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; processing GET requests. I couldn't see such hook from Orchestra's overview.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Does it have such a feature?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Writing custom PhaseListeners kicking in logic based on URLs gets a bit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; old... :) Shale's declarative &amp;lt;s:subview id&amp;gt; is great and much cleaner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Anything else like that out there?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Kito Mann wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23337768&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; MyFaces Apache Orchestra has a view controller feature as well, and you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; JSF 1.2 sometimes a PhaseListener associated with a particular view can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; yield similar results:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;f:view beforePhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.beforePhase}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; afterPhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.afterPhase}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/f:view&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The remoting features are a different story, though. JSF 2.0 has most of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Shale features (excluding the dialog framework and test framework). It
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; handles most of the use cases Shale Remoting handles (i.e. resource
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mangement) but doesn't allow you to call arbitrary methods in the same
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; manner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23337728</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-05-01T11:28:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-05-01T11:28:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kito Mann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello Cyril,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Orchestra ViewController can definitely handle this. See:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/viewController.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm not too familiar with the &amp;lt;s:subview&amp;gt; tag -- how does that work?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---
&lt;br&gt;Kito D. Mann -- Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
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&lt;br&gt;+1 203-404-4848 x3
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23337728&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Kito, by VC feature I meant essentially the prerender event for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; processing GET requests. I couldn't see such hook from Orchestra's overview.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Does it have such a feature?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Writing custom PhaseListeners kicking in logic based on URLs gets a bit
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; old... :) Shale's declarative &amp;lt;s:subview id&amp;gt; is great and much cleaner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Anything else like that out there?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Kito Mann wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23337728&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; MyFaces Apache Orchestra has a view controller feature as well, and you
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; JSF 1.2 sometimes a PhaseListener associated with a particular view can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; yield similar results:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;f:view beforePhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.beforePhase}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; afterPhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.afterPhase}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/f:view&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The remoting features are a different story, though. JSF 2.0 has most of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Shale features (excluding the dialog framework and test framework). It
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; handles most of the use cases Shale Remoting handles (i.e. resource
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; mangement) but doesn't allow you to call arbitrary methods in the same
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; manner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23303675</id>
	<title>Re : Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-29T12:12:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-29T12:12:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>gonzalad</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I'm not used to Shale dialogs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps using jpdl ? (and not jbpm !) (jpdl = page flows) 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/jbpm.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/jbpm.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We've used jpdl once 1.5 year ago, there where issues concerning exception handling (not done at pages.xml).
&lt;br&gt;But it has surely be resolved since.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;________________________________
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&lt;br&gt;Envoyé le : Mercredi, 29 Avril 2009, 9h32mn 10s
&lt;br&gt;Objet : RE: Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi, how can migrate Shale dialogs in seam?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mario
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Adrian Gonzalez [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23303675&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adr_gonzalez@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;Sent: 29 aprile 2009 00.07
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23303675&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;user@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You should take a serious look at seam (at least read all the documentation if you need to change your codebase) before taking another framework on top of jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The framework is very powerfull (but complicated, and you should do perf. benchmarks).
&lt;br&gt;To use it with facelets / ajax4jsf / richfaces.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;conversation management
&lt;br&gt;get functionnality and page actions
&lt;br&gt;remoting (proprietary protocol)
&lt;br&gt;powerfull navigation with exception handling
&lt;br&gt;good jpa (urgh... hibernate) integration
&lt;br&gt;validation with Hibernate Validator (this is a goog one !)
&lt;br&gt;security (authentication / authz)
&lt;br&gt;spring integration if need be
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and much more...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;________________________________
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&lt;br&gt;Envoyé le : Mardi, 28 Avril 2009, 23h31mn 13s
&lt;br&gt;Objet : Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
&lt;br&gt;I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
&lt;br&gt;We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to some other framework that's still actively maintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23303675&amp;i=9&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and/or ajax4jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23292098</id>
	<title>RE: Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-29T00:32:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-29T00:32:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>mario.buonopane</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi, how can migrate Shale dialogs in seam?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mario
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Adrian Gonzalez [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23292098&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adr_gonzalez@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;Sent: 29 aprile 2009 00.07
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23292098&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;user@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You should take a serious look at seam (at least read all the documentation if you need to change your codebase) before taking another framework on top of jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The framework is very powerfull (but complicated, and you should do perf. benchmarks).
&lt;br&gt;To use it with facelets / ajax4jsf / richfaces.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;conversation management
&lt;br&gt;get functionnality and page actions
&lt;br&gt;remoting (proprietary protocol)
&lt;br&gt;powerfull navigation with exception handling
&lt;br&gt;good jpa (urgh... hibernate) integration
&lt;br&gt;validation with Hibernate Validator (this is a goog one !)
&lt;br&gt;security (authentication / authz)
&lt;br&gt;spring integration if need be
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and much more...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;________________________________
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&lt;br&gt;Envoyé le : Mardi, 28 Avril 2009, 23h31mn 13s
&lt;br&gt;Objet : Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
&lt;br&gt;I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
&lt;br&gt;We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to some other framework that's still actively maintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23292098&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and/or ajax4jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23287051</id>
	<title>Re : [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T15:07:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T15:07:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>gonzalad</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">You should take a serious look at seam (at least read all the documentation if you need to change your codebase) before taking another framework on top of jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.jboss.com/seam/2.1.1.GA/reference/en-US/html/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The framework is very powerfull (but complicated, and you should do perf. benchmarks).
&lt;br&gt;To use it with facelets / ajax4jsf / richfaces.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;conversation management
&lt;br&gt;get functionnality and page actions
&lt;br&gt;remoting (proprietary protocol)
&lt;br&gt;powerfull navigation with exception handling
&lt;br&gt;good jpa (urgh... hibernate) integration
&lt;br&gt;validation with Hibernate Validator (this is a goog one !)
&lt;br&gt;security (authentication / authz)
&lt;br&gt;spring integration if need be
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and much more...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;________________________________
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&lt;br&gt;Envoyé le : Mardi, 28 Avril 2009, 23h31mn 13s
&lt;br&gt;Objet : Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
&lt;br&gt;I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
&lt;br&gt;We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to some other framework that's still actively maintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23287051&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and/or ajax4jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23286553</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T14:37:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T14:37:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Kito, by VC feature I meant essentially the prerender event for 
&lt;br&gt;processing GET requests. I couldn't see such hook from Orchestra's 
&lt;br&gt;overview. Does it have such a feature?
&lt;br&gt;Writing custom PhaseListeners kicking in logic based on URLs gets a bit 
&lt;br&gt;old... :) Shale's declarative &amp;lt;s:subview id&amp;gt; is great and much cleaner. 
&lt;br&gt;Anything else like that out there?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kito Mann wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23286553&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; MyFaces Apache Orchestra has a view controller feature as well, and you with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; JSF 1.2 sometimes a PhaseListener associated with a particular view can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; yield similar results:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;f:view beforePhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.beforePhase}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; afterPhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.afterPhase}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/f:view&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The remoting features are a different story, though. JSF 2.0 has most of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Shale features (excluding the dialog framework and test framework). It
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; handles most of the use cases Shale Remoting handles (i.e. resource
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; mangement) but doesn't allow you to call arbitrary methods in the same
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; manner.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23286422</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T14:29:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T14:29:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Greg, what features of Seam do you feel match Shale's VC or Remoting?
&lt;br&gt;I also understand ajax4jsf to be returning only HTML fragments per 
&lt;br&gt;architecture. We've a lot of Shale Remoting function returning JSON and 
&lt;br&gt;I'm not sure how we would do that in RichFaces...
&lt;br&gt;We do have a couple of outstanding bugs with Shale and unfortunately not 
&lt;br&gt;much time to contribute :-( , so folks like me will have to migrate to 
&lt;br&gt;some other framework that's still actively maintained.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23286422&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and/or ajax4jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23283913</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T11:55:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T11:55:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Kito Mann</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23283913&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;MyFaces Apache Orchestra has a view controller feature as well, and you with
&lt;br&gt;JSF 1.2 sometimes a PhaseListener associated with a particular view can
&lt;br&gt;yield similar results:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;f:view beforePhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.beforePhase}&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;afterPhase=&amp;quot;#{myBean.afterPhase}&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/f:view&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The remoting features are a different story, though. JSF 2.0 has most of the
&lt;br&gt;Shale features (excluding the dialog framework and test framework). It
&lt;br&gt;handles most of the use cases Shale Remoting handles (i.e. resource
&lt;br&gt;mangement) but doesn't allow you to call arbitrary methods in the same
&lt;br&gt;manner.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Cyril Bouteille
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; VP, Engineering
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; TravelMuse, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23283271</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T11:14:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T11:14:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Cyril Bouteille &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=23283271&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cyril@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just my viewpoint: probably your best bet would be to migrate to Seam
&lt;br&gt;and/or ajax4jsf.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But if you just don't feel like leaving Shale... This doesn't mean the
&lt;br&gt;code is going to disappear. The code will be housed in the Apache
&lt;br&gt;Attic svn. I'm not sure about existing releases, but I doubt they will
&lt;br&gt;be removed from Maven repos, etc. If you feel like the code needs
&lt;br&gt;further improvement feel free to start it back up at Google Code or
&lt;br&gt;elsewhere. The only caveat to forking is that ASF still holds the
&lt;br&gt;Apache Shale trademark so you'd have to come up with a different name.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Greg
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23281349</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T09:44:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T09:44:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This is sad news! Can you please recommend alternative projects for 
&lt;br&gt;migration of deployed View-Controller and Remote features? Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Cyril Bouteille
&lt;br&gt;VP, Engineering
&lt;br&gt;TravelMuse, Inc.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-23278443</id>
	<title>[ANNOUNCE] Apache Shale To Move To the Attic</title>
	<published>2009-04-28T07:27:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-04-28T07:27:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This is a heads up for the Shale user community that the Shale PMC has
&lt;br&gt;voted to move the project to the Attic. This means that the Shale
&lt;br&gt;developers (more formally its Project Management Committee) have voted
&lt;br&gt;to retire Shale and move the responsibility for its oversight over to
&lt;br&gt;the Attic project.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The MyFaces community has expressed interest in continuing development
&lt;br&gt;of the Shale-Test module and the Shale PMC will work with MyFaces to
&lt;br&gt;migrate this piece of the codebase.. Look for further announcements to
&lt;br&gt;that regard in the near future.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can read more about the Apache Attic at &lt;a href=&quot;http://attic.apache.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://attic.apache.org&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can follow the progress of the move at
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-2&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;if you so wish.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On behalf of the Apache Shale PMC, Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Greg Reddin
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22638056</id>
	<title>Re: Clay state question</title>
	<published>2009-03-21T09:53:30Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-21T09:53:30Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Gary%20VanMatre</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Ryan, 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The primary reason was to lock down what made up the sub component tree after it was built the first time. This component builds all its children the first rendering. For state management reasons, you have to make sure that the component has the same shape on postback. This is especially important when it is in a UIData family of component where there is only one instance of the component and the model is enumerated underneath. We would need to store the subtrees off in a private facet if we wanted to start supporting polymorphic subtrees. The displayElementObject should be the same instance in memory that the TemplateConfigBean uses. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you guys still using Clay or are you starting to migrate to Facets? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gary 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Ryan Wynn&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=22638056&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ryan.m.wynn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; 
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&lt;br&gt;Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:25:38 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Clay state question 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I noticed that the Clay component saves the displayElementObject state in 
&lt;br&gt;saveState. It would seem to me that this would cause some unnecessary 
&lt;br&gt;overhead in terms of space when using server side state management. Since 
&lt;br&gt;the displayElement root is already being cached globally in the 
&lt;br&gt;TemplateConfigBean, would it be a valid optimization to have the Clay 
&lt;br&gt;component retrieve it from there instead of &amp;quot;caching&amp;quot; it as part of the 
&lt;br&gt;component state? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there any reason why this needs to be saved as component state? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, 
&lt;br&gt;Ryan 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-22614121</id>
	<title>Clay state question</title>
	<published>2009-03-16T14:25:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-03-16T14:25:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Ryan Wynn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I noticed that the Clay component saves the displayElementObject state in
&lt;br&gt;saveState. &amp;nbsp;It would seem to me that this would cause some unnecessary
&lt;br&gt;overhead in terms of space when using server side state management. &amp;nbsp;Since
&lt;br&gt;the displayElement root is already being cached globally in the
&lt;br&gt;TemplateConfigBean, would it be a valid optimization to have the Clay
&lt;br&gt;component retrieve it from there instead of &amp;quot;caching&amp;quot; it as part of the
&lt;br&gt;component state?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there any reason why this needs to be saved as component state?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Ryan
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21926935</id>
	<title>ApacheCon Europe 2009: Early Bird Deadline Extended</title>
	<published>2009-02-09T19:16:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-02-09T19:16:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Subject: ApacheCon Europe 2009: Early Bird Deadline Extended
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21919515</id>
	<title>RE: Shale and AJAX4JSF issue</title>
	<published>2009-02-09T09:57:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-02-09T09:57:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Shridhar N S</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Rahul,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for your reply.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I got the source for 1.0.5 and built it as mentioned in that bug. But we don't use facelets, so I couldn't use FaceletViewHandler. However, I tried making all the other changes mentioned in the bug. After those changes, I could get the a4j working. But when I have any a4j action tags like a4j:commandButton etc, I need to surround it with a4j:region. This breaks the ability of partial refreshing of the page, instead it refreshed the whole page. I also posted the question on a4j forum:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&amp;op=viewtopic&amp;p=4208054#4208054&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&amp;op=viewtopic&amp;p=4208054#4208054&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any further help is very much appreciated.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Shridhar
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=21919515&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rahul.akolkar@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:04 PM
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=21919515&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;user@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Shale and AJAX4JSF issue
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Shridhar N S &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=21919515&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shridhar@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am seeing the exact issue mentioned in:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From the thread I am not clear, if the solution really works while using A4J and Shale. Do we have a stable build for Shale that addresses this issue?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;snip/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fix version says v1.0.5, which is available here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't believe we have or intend to vote on v1.0.5 quality any time
&lt;br&gt;soon, but you can try that if you want.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Rahul
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Shridhar N S
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sr.Web Engineer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; TravelMuse, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 4410 El Camino Real, Suite 102
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Los Altos, CA 94022
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21907198</id>
	<title>Re: Shale and AJAX4JSF issue</title>
	<published>2009-02-08T21:03:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-02-08T21:03:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rahul Akolkar</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Shridhar N S &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=21907198&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shridhar@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I am seeing the exact issue mentioned in:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From the thread I am not clear, if the solution really works while using A4J and Shale. Do we have a stable build for Shale that addresses this issue?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;snip/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fix version says v1.0.5, which is available here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/shale/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't believe we have or intend to vote on v1.0.5 quality any time
&lt;br&gt;soon, but you can try that if you want.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Rahul
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Shridhar N S
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sr.Web Engineer.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; TravelMuse, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 4410 El Camino Real, Suite 102
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Los Altos, CA 94022
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21907145</id>
	<title>Shale and AJAX4JSF issue</title>
	<published>2009-02-06T17:28:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-02-06T17:28:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Shridhar N S</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am seeing the exact issue mentioned in:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-409&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From the thread I am not clear, if the solution really works while using A4J and Shale. Do we have a stable build for Shale that addresses this issue?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Shridhar N S
&lt;br&gt;Sr.Web Engineer.
&lt;br&gt;TravelMuse, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;4410 El Camino Real, Suite 102
&lt;br&gt;Los Altos, CA 94022
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21688548</id>
	<title>Registration for ApacheCon Europe 2009 is now open!</title>
	<published>2009-01-27T08:13:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-01-27T08:13:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">ApacheCon EU 2009 registration is now open!
&lt;br&gt;23-27 March -- Mövenpick Hotel, Amsterdam, Netherlands
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eu.apachecon.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eu.apachecon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;================================
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Registration for ApacheCon Europe 2009 is now open - act before early
&lt;br&gt;bird prices expire 6 February. &amp;nbsp;Remember to book a room at the Mövenpick
&lt;br&gt;and use the Registration Code: Special package attendees for the
&lt;br&gt;conference registration, and get 150 Euros off your full conference
&lt;br&gt;registration.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lower Costs - Thanks to new VAT tax laws, our prices this year are 19%
&lt;br&gt;lower than last year in Europe! &amp;nbsp;We've also negotiated a Mövenpick rate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;of a maximum of 155 Euros per night for attendees in our room block.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quick Links:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://xrl.us/aceu09sp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://xrl.us/aceu09sp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; See the schedule
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://xrl.us/aceu09hp&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://xrl.us/aceu09hp&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; Get your hotel room
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other important notes:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Geeks for Geeks is a new mini-track where we can feature advanced
&lt;br&gt;technical content from project committers. &amp;nbsp;And our Hackathon on Monday
&lt;br&gt;and Tuesday is open to all attendees - be sure to check it off in your
&lt;br&gt;registration.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- The Call for Papers for ApacheCon US 2009, held 2-6 November
&lt;br&gt;2009 in Oakland, CA, is open through 28 February, so get your
&lt;br&gt;submissions in now. &amp;nbsp;This ApacheCon will feature special events with
&lt;br&gt;some of the ASF's original founders in celebration of the 10th
&lt;br&gt;anniversary of The Apache Software Foundation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Interested in sponsoring the ApacheCon conferences? &amp;nbsp;There are plenty
&lt;br&gt;of sponsor packages available - please contact Delia Frees at
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=21688548&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;delia@...&lt;/a&gt; for further information.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;======================================================
&lt;br&gt;ApacheCon EU 2008: A week of Open Source at it's best!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hackathon - open to all! | Geeks for Geeks | Lunchtime Sessions
&lt;br&gt;In-Depth Trainings | Multi-Track Sessions | BOFs | Business Panel
&lt;br&gt;Lightning Talks | Receptions | Fast Feather Track | Expo... and more!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Shane Curcuru, on behalf of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;Noirin Shirley, Conference Lead,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;and the whole ApacheCon Europe 2009 Team
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eu.apachecon.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.eu.apachecon.com/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; 23-27 March -- Amsterdam, Netherlands
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21626171</id>
	<title>[Travel Assistance] Applications for ApacheCon EU 2009 - Now Open</title>
	<published>2009-01-23T07:11:17Z</published>
	<updated>2009-01-23T07:11:17Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">The Travel Assistance Committee is now accepting applications for those
&lt;br&gt;wanting to attend ApacheCon EU 2009 between the 23rd and 27th March 2009
&lt;br&gt;in Amsterdam.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Travel Assistance Committee is looking for people who would like to
&lt;br&gt;be able to attend ApacheCon EU 2009 who need some financial support in
&lt;br&gt;order to get there. There are very few places available and the criteria
&lt;br&gt;is high, that aside applications are open to all open source developers
&lt;br&gt;who feel that their attendance would benefit themselves, their
&lt;br&gt;project(s), the ASF or open source in general.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Financial assistance is available for travel, accommodation and entrance
&lt;br&gt;fees either in full or in part, depending on circumstances. It is
&lt;br&gt;intended that all our ApacheCon events are covered, so it may be prudent
&lt;br&gt;for those in the United States or Asia to wait until an event closer to
&lt;br&gt;them comes up - you are all welcome to apply for ApacheCon EU of course,
&lt;br&gt;but there must be compelling reasons for you to attend an event further
&lt;br&gt;away that your home location for your application to be considered above
&lt;br&gt;those closer to the event location.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More information can be found on the main Apache website at
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apache.org/travel/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.apache.org/travel/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;- where you will also find a
&lt;br&gt;link to the online application form.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Time is very tight for this event, so applications are open now and will
&lt;br&gt;end on the 4th February 2009 - to give enough time for travel
&lt;br&gt;arrangements to be made.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck to all those that apply.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;The Travel Assistance Committee
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-21101103</id>
	<title>Shale Remoting 1.0.4 not decoding HTTP param in UTF-8?</title>
	<published>2008-12-19T18:04:35Z</published>
	<updated>2008-12-19T18:04:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Cyril Bouteille-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;We seem to have a problem decoding HTTP params with Shale Remoting 1.0.4 
&lt;br&gt;+ Sun App Server 9.1_02 w/ Mojarra 1.2_04-b22-p05.
&lt;br&gt;E.g. &amp;quot;Občanská Plovárna&amp;quot; gets decoded as &amp;quot;Ob?anská Plovárna&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;Note á gets decoded ok but not č although our 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;sun-web-app&amp;gt;&amp;lt;parameter-encoding default-charset=&amp;quot;utf-8&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;The decoding is fine with standard JSP/JSF if we don't go through Shale 
&lt;br&gt;Remoting.
&lt;br&gt;This looks very much like 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-282&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-282&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;but on the 
&lt;br&gt;incoming/decoding side.
&lt;br&gt;Can anyone confirm if there is a similar issue with Shale parameter 
&lt;br&gt;decoding on the request/reader side?
&lt;br&gt;Is there some sort of configuration setting we can set on Shale Remoting 
&lt;br&gt;to make it decode parameters in UTF-8 w/o code change?
&lt;br&gt;Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Cyril Bouteille
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-20423421</id>
	<title>[Announce] Call For Papers opens for ApacheCon US 2009</title>
	<published>2008-11-10T08:38:59Z</published>
	<updated>2008-11-10T08:38:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Greg Reddin-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">If you have only 30 seconds to read this;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Join us in celebrating the ASF's 10th Anniversary at ApacheCon!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Call for Papers is now open for ApacheCon US 2009, taking place 2-6
&lt;br&gt;November in Oakland, California. Proposals are being accepted at
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;and can be revised at anytime until
&lt;br&gt;the submissions closing deadline of 28 February 2009.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In addition, sponsorship opportunities for both ApacheCon EU 2009/Amsterdam
&lt;br&gt;and ApacheCon US 2009/Oakland are available. Please contact Delia Frees at
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please, read on...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*******
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ApacheCon Celebrates the ASF's 10th Anniversary in Oakland, California,
&lt;br&gt;2-6 November 2009
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Call for Papers Opens for ApacheCon US 2009
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) invites submissions to its official
&lt;br&gt;user and developer conference, taking place 2-6 November 2009 at the Oakland
&lt;br&gt;Convention Center and Marriott Hotel. ApacheCon serves as a forum for
&lt;br&gt;showcasing the ASF's latest projects, members, and community initiatives.
&lt;br&gt;Offering unparalleled educational opportunities, ApacheCon's presentations,
&lt;br&gt;hands-on trainings, and sessions address key technology, development,
&lt;br&gt;business/community, and licensing issues in Open Source.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The wide range of activities offered at ApacheCon promotes the exchange of
&lt;br&gt;ideas amongst ASF Members, committers, innovators, developers, vendors, and
&lt;br&gt;users interested in the future of Open Source technology. The conference
&lt;br&gt;program includes peer-reviewed sessions, trainings/workshops, and select
&lt;br&gt;invited keynote presentations and speakers.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conference Themes and Topics
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Building on ten years of success, ApacheCon returns to the Bay Area for the
&lt;br&gt;10th anniversary of the Apache Software Foundation. Comprising some of the
&lt;br&gt;most active and recognized developers in the Open Source community,
&lt;br&gt;ApacheCon provides an influential platform for dialogue between Open Source
&lt;br&gt;developers and users, traversing a wide range of ideas, expertise, and
&lt;br&gt;personalities.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ApacheCon welcomes submissions across many fields, geographic locations, and
&lt;br&gt;areas of development. The breadth of the Apache community lends itself to
&lt;br&gt;conference content that is somewhat loosely-structured, with common themes
&lt;br&gt;of interest addressing groundbreaking technologies and emerging trends, best
&lt;br&gt;practices (from development to deployment), case studies and lessons learned
&lt;br&gt;(tips, tools, and tricks). In addition, ApacheCon will continue to offer its
&lt;br&gt;highly popular, two-day intensive trainings; certifications of completion
&lt;br&gt;will be distributed to those who fulfill all the training requirements.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Topics appropriate for submission are manifold, and may include but are not
&lt;br&gt;restricted to: Apache HTTP server (installation, configuration, migration,
&lt;br&gt;and more); ASF-wide projects (including Lucene, Hadoop, Jackrabbit, and
&lt;br&gt;Maven); Scripting languages and dynamic content (such as Java, Perl, Python,
&lt;br&gt;Ruby, XSL, and PHP); Security and e-commerce (performance tuning, load
&lt;br&gt;balancing and high availability); New technologies (including broader
&lt;br&gt;initiatives such as Web Services and Web 2.0); ASF-Incubated projects (such
&lt;br&gt;as Sling, UIMA, and Shindig); and Business/Community issues (Open Source
&lt;br&gt;driven business models, open development, enterprise adoption, and more).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Submission Guidelines
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Submissions must include; – Session title - Speaker name - Speaker biography
&lt;br&gt;- Session description - Format and duration - Audience expertise level
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Full details are available online on the CFP page at [WWW]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Types of Presentations; - Trainings/Workshops - General Sessions - Case
&lt;br&gt;Studies/Industry Profiles - Corporate Showcases &amp; Demonstrations - Fast
&lt;br&gt;Feather (short) sessions - Birds of a Feather discussions - Invited
&lt;br&gt;Keynotes/Panels/Speakers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pre-Conference Trainings/Workshops
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Held on the first two days of the conference (2-3 November 2009), ApacheCon
&lt;br&gt;trainings are available at a registration fee beyond the regular conference
&lt;br&gt;fee. Proposals may be submitted for half-day (3 hours), full-day (6 hours),
&lt;br&gt;or two-day (12 hours) training sessions. These proposed tutorials should be
&lt;br&gt;aimed at providing in-depth, hands-on development experience or related
&lt;br&gt;continuing education. Training submissions are welcome at beginner,
&lt;br&gt;intermediate, and expert levels.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;General Sessions include presentations on practical development
&lt;br&gt;applications, insight into high-interest projects, best practices and key
&lt;br&gt;advances, overcoming implementation challenges, and industry innovations.
&lt;br&gt;Especially welcome are submissions that extend participants' understanding
&lt;br&gt;the role of ASF projects and their influence on the Open Source community at
&lt;br&gt;large. General Sessions are scheduled for 50 minutes and are accessible to
&lt;br&gt;all conference delegates.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Case Study/Industry Profile
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Practitioners are invited to submit presentations that focus on how
&lt;br&gt;implementing particular ASF technologies led to improved products/solutions,
&lt;br&gt;service offerings, changes in work practices, among other successes.
&lt;br&gt;Proposals that highlight overcoming interesting challenges in application
&lt;br&gt;design and developing innovative frameworks using multiple ASF projects are
&lt;br&gt;particularly encouraged. NOTE: Marketing-oriented submissions aimed at
&lt;br&gt;promoting specific organizations or products will not be accepted.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Invited Keynotes/Panels/Speakers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Each conference the ApacheCon Planning team invites select presenters
&lt;br&gt;dealing with engaging, dialectical, and challenging subjects to present in
&lt;br&gt;keynote and/or panel formats. Topics include cutting-edge technology
&lt;br&gt;development, industry leadership, hot or emerging trends, opinions on
&lt;br&gt;controversial issues, insight on technology paradigms, and contrasting
&lt;br&gt;viewpoints in complementary professional areas. Those interested in
&lt;br&gt;suggesting a candidate for an invited speaker opportunity should submit a
&lt;br&gt;brief proposal with the speaker's name, affiliation, background/bio,
&lt;br&gt;overview of topics of interest, and contact information.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Birds of a Feather (BoF) sessions and Fast Feather Track talks are selected
&lt;br&gt;by separate processes, nearer to the beginning of the conference.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Proposals are now being accepted at &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/cfp/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;and can be revised at anytime until the submissions closing deadline of 28
&lt;br&gt;February 2009.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-20389578</id>
	<title>[Announce] Call For Papers opens for ApacheCon US 2009</title>
	<published>2008-11-07T13:51:49Z</published>
	<updated>2008-11-07T13:51:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rahul Akolkar</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">---------- Forwarded message ----------
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have only 30 seconds to read this;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Join us in celebrating the ASF's 10th Anniversary at ApacheCon!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Call for Papers is now open for ApacheCon US 2009, taking place 2-6
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*******
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ApacheCon Celebrates the ASF's 10th Anniversary in Oakland, California,
&lt;br&gt;2-6 November 2009
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Call for Papers Opens for ApacheCon US 2009
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) invites submissions to its official
&lt;br&gt;user and developer conference, taking place 2-6 November 2009 at the Oakland
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&lt;br&gt;program includes peer-reviewed sessions, trainings/workshops, and select
&lt;br&gt;invited keynote presentations and speakers.
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Building on ten years of success, ApacheCon returns to the Bay Area for the
&lt;br&gt;10th anniversary of the Apache Software Foundation. Comprising some of the
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&lt;br&gt;Proposals that highlight overcoming interesting challenges in application
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&lt;br&gt;by separate processes, nearer to the beginning of the conference.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19934282</id>
	<title>Re: shale-test and JMock2</title>
	<published>2008-10-11T09:56:10Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-11T09:56:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Matthias Wessendorf-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">not yet:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-484&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/SHALE-484&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;but this is actually already scheduled.
&lt;br&gt;Stay tuned.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-M
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Rogerio Pereira
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19934282&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rogerio.araujo@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is shale-test ready to use with JMock2?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Rogério (_rogerio_)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [Blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://faces.eti.br&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://faces.eti.br&lt;/a&gt;] &amp;nbsp;[Sandbox: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bmobile.dyndns.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bmobile.dyndns.org&lt;/a&gt;] &amp;nbsp;[Twitter:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/ararog&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/ararog&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Faça a diferença! Ajude o seu país a crescer, não retenha conhecimento,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; distribua e aprenda mais.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (&lt;a href=&quot;http://faces.eti.br/2006/10/30/conhecimento-e-amadurecimento&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://faces.eti.br/2006/10/30/conhecimento-e-amadurecimento&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Matthias Wessendorf
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;sessions: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;twitter: &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19843015</id>
	<title>shale-test and JMock2</title>
	<published>2008-10-06T10:59:34Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-06T10:59:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>_rogerio_</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Is shale-test ready to use with JMock2?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rogério (_rogerio_)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://faces.eti.br&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://faces.eti.br&lt;/a&gt;] &amp;nbsp;[Sandbox: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bmobile.dyndns.org&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bmobile.dyndns.org&lt;/a&gt;] &amp;nbsp;[Twitter:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/ararog&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/ararog&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Faça a diferença! Ajude o seu país a crescer, não retenha conhecimento,
&lt;br&gt;distribua e aprenda mais.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://faces.eti.br/2006/10/30/conhecimento-e-amadurecimento&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://faces.eti.br/2006/10/30/conhecimento-e-amadurecimento&lt;/a&gt;)
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19814704</id>
	<title>Re: [Test] outstanding patches ?</title>
	<published>2008-10-04T10:31:21Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-04T10:31:21Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Matthias Wessendorf-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">no patches on TEST, that need to be committed ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-M
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Matthias Wessendorf &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19814704&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;matzew@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; are there outstanding patches ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If so, please reply to this mail with the according jira #.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I will find some time for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; a) review
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; b) applying them to Shale test.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After that, I will find some more time to finally do a release (more
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; on that later),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; first, let's get the patches in ;-)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -M
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Matthias Wessendorf
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sessions: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; twitter: &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/mwessendorf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Matthias Wessendorf
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19799386</id>
	<title>Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] New Shale Committer: Paul Spencer</title>
	<published>2008-10-03T07:43:18Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-03T07:43:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>jmitchell</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Welcome aboard!!!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Gary VanMatre &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=19799386&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gvanmatre@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please join me in welcoming Paul Spencer as the newest Shale committer. &amp;nbsp;Paul has been very supportive of the Shale community over the past year. &amp;nbsp;Paul is also a member of the MyFaces project.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Welcome, Paul!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;James Mitchell
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-19791559</id>
	<title>[ANNOUNCEMENT] New Shale Committer: Paul Spencer</title>
	<published>2008-10-02T20:31:31Z</published>
	<updated>2008-10-02T20:31:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Gary%20VanMatre</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Please join me in welcoming Paul Spencer as the newest Shale committer. &amp;nbsp;Paul has been very supportive of the Shale community over the past year. &amp;nbsp;Paul is also a member of the MyFaces project. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Welcome, Paul!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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